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[VGC] Wishiwashi Moveset - Special/Physical Attacker (Leftovers) - ChaseInfinity - Nov 23, 2016

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Credit to 8bitDavid

Sun and Moon is here, and with that new pokemon, and a new meta game. Today i will be looking at the pokemon that embodies "Strength in numbers" - Wishiwashi. This pokemon is insanely powerful, having 140 Attack and Special Attack, 130 Defense, and 135 Special Defense, the only problem is, one it's health gets past 25%, he becomes a frail tiny little single pokemon. Being able to maximize his time in "School form" is a major part of Wishiwashi's style, lets see if I can make him work.

P.S. Please keep in mind, VGC17 is in its earliest stages, so these sets are just for everyone to get a grasp on competitive until the metagame starts to settle out, after that we will go back to these sets and make the proper changes.
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Type: Water
Base Stats:
  • School Form: 45 Hp / 140 Atk / 130 Def / 140 SpA / 135 SpD / 30 Spe
  • Singular Form: 45 Hp / 20 Atk / 20 Def / 25 SpA / 25 SpD / 40 Spe
Weaknesses: Electric (X2), Grass (X2)
Resistances: Fire (X0.5), Water (X0.5), Ice (X0.5), Steel (X0.5)
Abilities:
Schooling - Changes the Pokémon's form when it is Level 20 and has more than 25% Hit Points. When Hit Points drop below 25%, it changes back to Solo Form

Special Attacker

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Wishiwashi @ Leftovers
Ability: Schooling
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Ice Beam / Scald / Hydro Pump
- Muddy Water / Aqua Ring / Swagger
- Scald / Endeavor / Hydro Pump

Wishiwashi is a crazy strong pokemon, but suffers from its schooling ability, so the most essential part of this set is the leftovers, allowing Wishiwashi to regain some HP bring the battle, keeping it over the 25% health mark, and potentially bringing it back over the 25%, activating School form once again. Protect is nessesary to obviously protect yourself from an attack that would be detrimental, and keeping Wishiwashi over the 25% health mark for another turn. Another move depending on Wishiwashi's HP is Endeavor, in troubling times when Wishiwashi's health is low, using Endeavor allows you to bring you're opponents health down to equal yours. Honorable mention goes to Aqua Ring, this will allow Wishiwashi to restore more health faster over each turn. Swagger is another move that could be good for using while out of school form, potentially give you enough time to return back to School Form . Attacking moves wise, Wishiwashi doesnt have the best movepool. Scald is the normal go to water type move, allowing you to burn you foes, it has a 76% change to 2HKO Nihilego (Ultra Beast with 131 SpD), and this is using a Nihilego with 4Hp, 252 SpD, and a nature benefiting SpD. Most of the other Ultra best have very low special attack and will be killed in at least 2 hits. For a potential OHKO on Ultra beast an other opponents, Hydro pump is another option, though the accuarcy could be a problem. Other attacking moves we have are Muddy water, which has the ability to attack both opponents and lower their accuarcy, just becareful for Wide Guard, which UB Celesteela and Guzzlord can learn, aswell as Ice beam for a better type coverage.

Damage Calculations:

Offensive

  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Scald vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Nihilego: 86-104 (46.4 - 56.2%) -- 76.2% chance to 2HKO
  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Buzzwole: 118-139 (55.1 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pheromosa: 90-106 (50.5 - 59.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (P.S. Keep in mind this will probably not be the ev spread for Pheromosa, im just using this as an example to show Wishiwashi's potential)
  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Kartana: 128-151 (94.8 - 111.8%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Xurkitree: 96-114 (60.3 - 71.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Celesteela: 72-85 (35.2 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
  • 252 SpA Wishiwashi-School Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Guzzlord: 180-212 (54.5 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Defensive


Even if Wishiwashi is able to survive an attack, it will get out of it's School form and become super fragile

Physical Attacker

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Wishiwashi-School @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Schooling
Level: 50
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Swagger / U-Turn / Scald / Facade

Wishiwashi has the same Attack and Special Attack stat, so it has potential for both variations. Wishiwashi's best physcial moves are Waterfall and Earthquake, keep in mind that Earthquake will hit allies. Most attacks from these two moves will 2HKO the Ultra beast, Kartana, Celesteela, and Guzzlord will take around 3. For a little more damage in certain situations, Facade could be better. For a couple moves to be used in sticky situation such as out of school form, first we have Swagger, which can confuse opponents potentially giving you a chance to escape or get back to School form. U-Turn will allow you to escape, but will be difficult to use because of Wishiwashi's terrible speed. Protect again allows you to block attacks. And finally it wont do as much damage but scald can be good against pokemon with low special defense, and for a chance to burn.

Damage Calculations:

Offensive

  • 252+ Atk Wishiwashi-School Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Pheromosa: 99-117 (67.8 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Again, probably not the set thats going to be used for Pheromosa)
  • 252+ Atk Wishiwashi-School Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Xurkitree: 132-156 (83 - 98.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  • (While inflicted with a status condition) 252+ Atk Wishiwashi-School Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Guzzlord: 150-177 (45.4 - 53.6%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO
  • 252+ Atk Wishiwashi-School Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Nihilego: 356-420 (192.4 - 227%) -- guaranteed OHKO
  • 252+ Atk Wishiwashi-School Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Tapu Koko in Electric Terrain: 126-150 (86.8 - 103.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
  • 252+ Atk Wishiwashi-School Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Celesteela: 78-93 (38.2 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Defensive


Even if Wishiwashi is able to survive an attack, it will get out of it's School form and become super fragile


Potential Teammates include, but aren't limited to;
  • Since Wishiwashi is so slow, a Trick Room user would be amazing, it allows it to attack first and deal damge.
  • Wide guard user - Tapu Koko is currently running moves such as discharge and Dazzling gleam, this will allow you to prevent those attacks from hitting.

Threats include, but aren't limited to;
  • Kartana (Grass/Steel) - One of the Ultra Beast has a crazy 181 Base Attack, using Leaf Blade, plus STAB and Super Effective Hit (to Wishiwashi), unless you fully invest into Defense, you will not survive, and even if you do survive, and ice beam from Wishiwashi will only do 70-90%, meaning next turn, Kartana will out speed and kill.
  • Xurkitree (Electric) - Xurkitree is in the same ballpark as Kartana, does enough damage to potenitally kill Wishiwashi, and if Wishiwashi does survive, it will be outspeed by Xurkitree.
  • Tapu Bulu & Tapu Koko - Pretty much the same situation as Kartana and Xurkitree

Other Notable Moves
  • Rest - I could see a Chesto-Resto set also being used with Wishiwashi, being able to get him back to full health faster could be very useful
  • Tearful Look - Probably wont be used much but wanted to talk about this new move, it lowers you opponents Attack and Special Attack stat by 1 stage

Other Notable Items
  • Chesto Berry - Explained above in 'Notable Moves' - Rest
  • Sitrus Berry - Another way for Wishiwashi to regain lost heal in a short amount of time
  • Assault Vest - Not sure how popular bulky Wishiwashi will be, but Assault vest will allow it to take less damage from special attacks, and potentially stay in the fight longer

As said before the metagame is in it early phases, so alot will change in the coming months, when that happens either this thread will be updated for a new will come in its place. Wishiwashi is a pokemon with alot of power, and i can see it being paired with many pokemon to increase it utility, we'll just have to see what the future brings us. If you have any suggested sets or ev spreads that could be helpful, feel free to post them in the replys.

RE: Wishiwashi Moveset - Special/Physical Attacker (Leftovers) - croissant - Nov 23, 2016

Great moveset @ChaseInfinity! Simple, but efficient. To go back to the schooling form, though, I would suggest rest since when you go back to full and you can then go back into the threatening form. Smile