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Necrozma Competitive Discussion, Overview and Learnset - Kris - Nov 16, 2017

Necrozma Mane of Twilight
PSYCHIC STEEL
[Image: necrozma-dusk-mane.jpg]
Stats

HP: 97
Attack: 157
Defense: 127
Sp.Atk: 113
Sp.Def: 109
Speed: 77
Necrozma Wings of Dawn
PSYCHIC GHOST
[Image: necrozma-dawn-wings.jpg]
Stats:

HP: 97
Attack: 113
Defense: 109
Sp.Atk: 157
Sp.Def: 127
Speed: 77
Necrozma Ultra Burst Form
PSYCHIC DRAGON
[Image: ultra_necrozma_by_alexalan-dbt402y.png]
Stats

HP: 97
Attack: 167
Defense: 97
Sp.Atk: 167
Sp.Def: 97
Speed: 129

Learnset

Level up Moves
  • Necrozma now learns Photon Geyser at Level 50
TM Moves
  • Necrozma doesn't learn any new TM Moves in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon
Tutor Moves
  • Ally Switch
  • Dragon Pulse
  • Earth Power
  • Gravity
  • Heat Wave
  • Hyper Voice
  • Iron Defense
  • Iron Head
  • Knock Off
  • Magnet Rise
  • Outrage
  • Recycle
  • Shock Wave
  • Signal Beam
  • Snore
  • Stealth Rock
  • Telekinesis
Transformation Moves
  • Upon transforming into Mane of Twilight Necrozma, Necrozma gets Sunsteel Strike
  • Upon transforming into Wings of Dawn Necrozma, Necrozma gets Moongeist Beam
Z-Moves
  • Mane of Twilight Necrozma can use Searing Sunraze Smash while holding the Solganium Z and knowing Sunsteel Strike
[Image: 800px-USUM_Prerelease_Searing_Sunraze_Smash.png]
  • Wings of Dawn Necrozma can use Menacing Moonraze Maelstrom while holding the Lunalium Z and knowing Moongeist Beam
[Image: 800px-USUM_Prerelease_Menacing_Moonraze_Maelstrom.png]
  • Necrozma Ultra Burst Form can use Light That Burns The Sky while holding the Ultranecrozium Z and having Photon Geyser
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Discussion
Mane of Twilight Necrozma
MOT Necrozma is held back by it's low speed, exactly 20 points lower than Solgaleo, and it's HP is 40 points lower, but this form has better offensive and defensive stats. It's Uber threats will be Marshadow, Ho-Oh, Arceus-Fire/Ghost/Dark to name a few. The way I see it, you'll be forced to run a bulky set, however, backed by Prism Armor, this Pokemon may see good usage in it's access t utility moves Solgaleo can't get like Moonlight, Stealth Rock and Knock Off.
Set Prediction
Necrozma-Dusk Mane @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 248 HP / 4 Atk / 64 Def / 192 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic
- Moonlight
- Knock Off
Damage Calculations
  • 252 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Spectral Thief vs. 248 HP / 64 Def Prism Armor Necrozma: 216-257 (54.4 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Possible damage amounts: (216, 218, 222, 224, 228, 230, 234, 234, 236, 240, 242, 246, 248, 252, 253, 257)
  • 252+ Atk Life Orb Ho-Oh Sacred Fire vs. 248 HP / 64 Def Prism Armor Necrozma: 271-322 (68.2 - 81.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Possible damage amounts: (271, 275, 277, 281, 283, 289, 292, 294, 298, 300, 304, 306, 310, 312, 316, 322)
  • 252 SpA Gengar-Mega Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 192+ SpD Prism Armor Necrozma: 171-202 (43 - 50.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Possible damage amounts: (171, 172, 175, 177, 180, 181, 181, 184, 186, 189, 190, 193, 195, 198, 199, 202)
Wings of Dawn Necrozma

WOD Necrozma is in a similar situation as MOT Necrozma, bad Speed and HP, but overall better offense and defense. I expect a similar set to MOT Necrozma, maybe bar Knock Off? Either way, it's going to be a bulky setup Pokemon, at least that's what I'm predicting. It's dual Ghost and Psychic typing is horrible however, now 4x weak to ghost, with both Mega Gengar and Marshadow running around Ubers, this form doesn't seem like it will get as much use as MOT Necrozma.

Set Prediction
Necrozma-Dawn Wings @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 64 SpD
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Moonlight
- Calm Mind
- Prismatic Laser
Damage Calculations This form sucks
  • 252 SpA Darkrai Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Prism Armor Necrozma: 315-372 (79.1 - 93.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Possible damage amounts: (315, 318, 324, 327, 327, 333, 336, 342, 345, 351, 351, 354, 360, 363, 369, 372)
  • 252+ Atk Incineroar Darkest Lariat vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Prism Armor Necrozma: 300-354 (75.3 - 88.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Possible damage amounts: (300, 300, 306, 309, 315, 318, 318, 324, 327, 333, 336, 336, 342, 345, 351, 354)
  • 252 Atk Decidueye Phantom Force vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Prism Armor Necrozma: 279-327 (70.1 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Possible damage amounts: (279, 279, 282, 288, 288, 291, 297, 300, 300, 306, 309, 315, 315, 318, 324, 327)
Necrozma Ultra Burst Form

Ultra Necrozma is insane. It has a higher BST than Arceus, yes ARCEUS, and has the highest offensive stats of any non-mega Pokemon, 167 on each offensive stat. It's Ability, Neuroforce, doubles the power of Super-effective moves. It's signature attack, Photon Geyser, shifts between being a Physical or Special move based on it's higher attacking stat, and it's Z-Move, Light That Burns The Sky, is a base 200 Power attack that has the same effect AND ignores the target's ability. If it goes to AG or not remains to be seen, it can't hold any item like Mega Rayquaza, but we'll see what happens. It needs to be MOT/WOD Necrozma to transform, so I have come up with what might bne the common set for it. Autotomize in it's base form while it has Prism Armor and then transform and outspeed almost everything.

Set Prediction
Necrozma-Ultra @ Ultranecrozium Z
Ability: Neuroforce
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Speed
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Autotomize
- Knock Off / Earthquake / Iron Head
- Photon Geyser
Damage Calculations
Offensive
  • 252 Atk Neuroforce Necrozma Outrage vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 328-387 (101.5 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    Possible damage amounts: (328, 331, 336, 340, 343, 348, 351, 355, 358, 363, 367, 370, 375, 378, 382, 387)
  • 252 Atk Neuroforce Necrozma Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rayquaza-Mega: 630-744 (179.4 - 211.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    Possible damage amounts: (630, 638, 644, 654, 660, 668, 674, 684, 690, 698, 704, 714, 720, 728, 734, 744)
  • 252 Atk Neuroforce Necrozma Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 532-628 (189.3 - 223.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    Possible damage amounts: (532, 540, 546, 552, 558, 564, 570, 576, 584, 590, 596, 602, 608, 614, 620, 628)
  • 252 Atk Neuroforce Necrozma Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 602-710 (214.2 - 252.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    Possible damage amounts: (602, 610, 616, 624, 630, 638, 646, 652, 660, 666, 674, 680, 688, 694, 702, 710)
Defensive
  • 252 Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Necrozma: 257-304 (76.7 - 90.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Possible damage amounts: (257, 260, 260, 265, 268, 273, 273, 276, 281, 283, 289, 289, 291, 296, 299, 304)
  • 252+ Atk Choice Band Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Necrozma: 222-264 (66.2 - 78.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Possible damage amounts: (222, 224, 228, 230, 234, 236, 240, 240, 242, 246, 248, 252, 254, 258, 260, 264)
  • 252 SpA Life Orb Landorus Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Necrozma: 161-190 (48 - 56.7%) -- 86.3% chance to 2HKO
    Possible damage amounts: (161, 161, 164, 166, 166, 169, 172, 174, 174, 177, 179, 182, 182, 185, 187, 190)
  • 252 Atk Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Necrozma: 276-326 (82.3 - 97.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Possible damage amounts: (276, 278, 282, 284, 290, 294, 296, 300, 302, 306, 308, 312, 314, 318, 320, 326)
There'll be one for

a brand new Pokemon
later.


RE: Necrozma Competitive Discussion, Overview and Learnset - Kris - Nov 17, 2017

I just realized, it doesn't get Dragon Claw