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[DISCUSSION] (somewhat) monthly sm ou metagame update
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(Nov 29, 2017, 06:04 AM)Spyro190 Wrote: 0 Atk Life Orb Latios Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 159-187 (46.6 - 54.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Life Orb Latios Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 328-390 (84.9 - 101%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

0 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 344-408 (89.1 - 105.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 168-198 (49.2 - 58%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

@Spyro190 i assumed you would know this since you seem to have a much better understanding of the meta than me, but here's a news flash: life orb latios is not a very good set anymore. idk if you have been playing oras instead of sun moon, but latios pretty much only runs scarf and z moves (and like soul dew on some cm sets), because life orb aoa is just easily walled and calm mind would much rather run psychium z to have a solid nuke or soul dew to not get worn down and sweep more easily. so yeah i dont know why you are posting those calcs since life orb latios is pretty mediocre, i wouldve thought you would know. the calcs should instead look like this:

4 Atk Latios Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 124-146 (36.3 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
4 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 168-198 (49.2 - 58%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO (obviously a guaranteed 2hko after rocks)

furthermore, unlike regular latios, mlatios was able to not only be able to 2hko av ttar (since the post was made during naganadel meta) after some chip, but was able to switch out and live pursuit 100% of the time, two things regular latios can't do.

60 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios-Mega: 234-276 (77.7 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (80 bp because of switching out)
4 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 168-198 (41.6 - 49.1%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

60 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 282-332 (93.6 - 110.2%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO (same deal)
0 Atk Latios Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 122-144 (30.2 - 35.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

yeah sure, mega latios isn't the best pokemon at all, i'll be the first to say it, but saying that its complete garbage and trying to support this by giving out calcs with subpar sets is a bit weird to me lol. anyways it has seen success even in tours with players like abr using it, so if you really want to keep saying its the worst mon of all time and thinking everyone is wrong, then idk what to say.

(Nov 29, 2017, 06:04 AM)Spyro190 Wrote: i'll gladly accept answers to my posts, but uninformed and useless ones are a bit irritating.

well that's pretty rich coming from the guy who is using bad calcs to support an argument and ignored half of my post (where did that "stakataka is horrible" agrument go???)

this thread became pretty toxic and i won't engage in this discussion furthermore because its just getting annoying for me and for people reading and also derailed the whole thread, and i suggest you do the same. but if you really feel the need to "win" this argument on a pokemon forum of all things (lol) and keep posting, then have fun. have a nice day
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RE: (somewhat) weekly sm ou metagame update - by croissant - Nov 29, 2017, 02:36 PM

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