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[DISCUSSION] Newbie Competitive Player - Need Help
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(Aug 21, 2016, 09:11 AM)Saiman Wrote:
(Aug 21, 2016, 06:07 AM)Marcusube Wrote:
(Jun 18, 2016, 11:17 PM)ReddyMason Wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I'm looking to try out the competitve scene, after completing my living pokedex and doing almost everything you can in my Alpha Sapphire game, looking to spice things up and try out battling. I'm familiar with breeding for competitive Pokemon and how to make sure you get certain moves and abilites with items. However, I don't really have much knowledge on what Pokemon are good at the moment as a new player.

My point being, what do you guys think would be a good all around competitve team for a new player to start on. A team that would suit a lot of opponent Pokemon whether not be the best, but average so I could learn the ropes. Also, are there any massive points I should know before getting into the competitve scene? Any tips?

Thanks everyone Smile

Alright here's my two cents about competitive Pokemon. Firstly, there are several styles or formats that exist, the main two being Smogon and Battle Spot. These two break down into smaller subsets where Smogon consists of Doubles and Singles formats with a usage tier system aimed at balancing competitive play by grouping Pokemon into tiers based on their strength so like Latios and Landorus-Therian would be OU while Butterfree and Avalugg would be in PU. A majority of Singles battlers prefer Smogon over Battle Spot singles because of how the tiers allow you to be able to create teams for different metagames instead of just one centralized metagame so if you plan to play Singles competitively, I'd suggest looking up Smogon and Pokemon Showdown. Battle Spot is the more official format as it is programmed into ORAS. All types of battles are existent only there is no tiering system so you can bring anything that isn't a base 680 legendary Pokemon (except on the Special ladder). Battle Spot has more restrictions in terms of the amount of items you can bring to a battle (can't bring more than one of the same item on a team) and the amount of Pokemon you can bring to a match (its generally carry 6 and pick 3 or 4 then play). Honestly, the only appeal of Battle Spot is the Special and Doubles rated ladder seeing as how they're the most popular and current ones AND they imitate the VGC16/VGC15 ruleset which is the one we currently have.

With all these different formats, it is impossible to make one single team that works in all of them so you need to choose and state the metagame you want to play in.

I'm not as familiar with VGC16 as I am with Smogon so I'll pass you a Smogon PU team I'm currently using on the ladder

TEAM :-

Unfezant @ Choice Band
Ability: Super Luck
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- U-turn
- Return
- Night Slash
- Quick Attack

Simipour @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute
- Hydro Pump
- Focus Blast

Ampharos @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunder Wave
- Heal Bell
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Lumineon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Defog
- Scald
- U-turn
- Toxic

Camerupt @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Toxic

Quilladin @ Eviolite
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Toxic
- Wood Hammer
- Synthesis


Smogon is not official battling.  The VGC is the actual official battling.  Smogon was created because they thought that using all pokemon for your team made it unbalanced.  Though I would guess if you use a lower Smogon tier you probably won't do well at VGC. I don't know what the PU tier is.

You can also sign up on the pokemon-gl and sometimes they have online competitions.  I did a johto classic so it was only first 2 gens of pokes and was a one on one battle.  Each had a team of 6 (or less in the case of some of my competitors) and we fought 3 on 3. 

I hope you don't feel bad for choosing smogon.  That was not my intent.  Just that Smogon rules will probably never go anywhere except online on pokemon showdown.  

I hope I helped.

"Battle Spot is the more official format as it is programmed into ORAS"

Also Smogon rules are recognized by a majority of the Pokemon community and you are going to find battlers that only play Smogon. It's really up to you how you want to play the game but don't disrespect a Smogon player because they don't play VGC or vice versa. Everyone has their preferences.

Oh yes, Pokemon GL competitions are really fun as well so compete in those to get a better feel of competitive player
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