Pokemon Forever
(VGC 2017) Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker - Printable Version

+- Pokemon Forever (http://pokemonforever.com)
+-- Forum: POKéMON (http://pokemonforever.com/Forum-POK%C3%A9MON)
+--- Forum: Competitive Pokemon Movesets (http://pokemonforever.com/Forum-Competitive-Pokemon-Movesets)
+--- Thread: (VGC 2017) Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker (/Thread-VGC-VGC-2017-Tapu-Lele-Moveset-Special-Attacker)



(VGC 2017) Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker - Black117 - Nov 28, 2016

(VGC 2017) Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker

[Image: tapu_lele_by_capitanusop-damjggl.png]
Deviant Art by captainusop

Now that we've gotten a good idea of what Pokemon is "strong" in the early VGC format, we'll discuss one of the newest Legendary who's already made an impact: Tapu Lele. Looking at its base stats, Tapu Lele seems like a moderate strong Special Attacker with a high 130 SpA and decent 95 Spe. From an offensive perspective Tapu Lele has a great typing to abuse its base 130 Special Attack in Psychic / Fairy which essentially hits everything in the format that's not a Steel-type for neutral coverage at least. There are even some decent  coverage / support options Lele can run with access to Taunt, Calm Mind, Thunderbolt, and the new Fairy-type "super fang" in Nature's Madness. Now what would make this seemingly above average Psychic / Fairy special attacker even more strong? Well, how about a rather powerful ability...or terrain.

Tapu Lele is one of four Terrain summoner among the Tapu Quartet legends who can activate their respective field abilities for about five turns. Now what can this terrain be you might ask?  With the new ability Psychic Surge, Tapu Lele create a "psychic terrain" where the power of all Psychic-type moves are boosted by 50% and even blocks priority for all grounded Pokemon. Now we have a strong Psychic-type user who can essentially hit most of the format relatively hard with Psychic Terrain-boosted hits for absurd damage output. In addition to this, now that Psychic Terrain blocks almost all priority based moves, this covers Lele and its teammates from any revenge killing potential from moves like Bullet Punch or Extreme Speed. 

Note not all things are good for Tapu Lele as its inhibits a low physical defenses compared to its special defense. Even so the rise of  Steel-, Poison-, and Ghost-types have made it difficult for Lele to operate as a offensive hitter, heck even it as to worry about random SE attack. Nevertheless, Tapu Lele is a major threat in the VGC 17 format with its powerful special attacks, as well as a meta-defining ability that forces players to work without priority hits.
 

[Image: tapulele.png]
Type: Psychic Fairy
Base Stats: 75 HP / 85 Attack / 75 Defense / 130 Special Attack / 115 Special Defense / 95 Speed
Weaknesses:  Poison x2 Steel x2 Ghost x2 
Resistances: Fighting  x0.25  Psychic x0.5
Immunities: Dragon
Abilities: Psychic Surge - Summons Psychic Terrrain which in turn is active for 5 turns. Psychic Terrain increases the power of all Psychic-type moves and block priority for all "grounded" Pokemon. 


Fast Offensive Attacker
 
[Image: tapulele.png]

Tapu Lele @ Life Orb  
Ability: Psychic Surge  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid / Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Moonblast  
- Dazzling Gleam / Thunderbolt / HP Fire
- Protect

The following set is the standard Tapu Lele set with STABs + one coverage move. Factoring in the 50% boosts to its Psychic-type STAB attack and a high base 130 Special Attack, Tapu Lele has the potential to 2HKO most of the unresistant format with little effort. Psychic is the preferred choice for Tapu Lele for more damage output, though Psyshock can be opted to hit Pokemon on their low physical defense. Moonblast is Lele's strongest STAB Fairy-type move to hit opposing Dragon-, and Dark-types, who the latter is immune to its boosted Psychic Terrain-boosted hits. 

The final "third" coverage move is entirely up to the player given their team structure, though here's some options. Dazzling Gleam lets Tapu Lele use a STAB Fairy-type spread move to hit both targets decently well. Thunderbolt can be use to hit Water- and Flying-type Pokemon like Pelipper, Celesteela, Gyarados, etc for S.E damage, or used to take advantage of the Electric Terrain boost from Tapu Koko. Lastly HP Fire can be used to hit Steel-types for moderate damage, but won't likely pickup the OHKO. 

For the EV spread, a simple 4/ 252 / 252 set can suffice given the Life Orb damage will rack up and make it harder for Tapu Lele to take certain hits without proper support or investment. Timid nature is preferred so Tapu Lele can at least speed tie or outspeed those below base 95 speed. Modest nature can be used to allow Tapu Lele's Psychic attacks to hit further strong and can compromise speed for a bit of bulk. 

To get a sense of just how powerful Tapu Lele hits with its Psychic Terrain boosted attack and other coverage moves, here's a list of offensive calculations. Note this is using a Life Orb 252 SpA Timid nature Lele using Psychic, Moonblast, and Dazzling Gleam.  



Offensive Calcs:



Psychic Terrain-boosted LO Psychic (idk why)

252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp in Psychic Terrain: 169-200 (92.3 - 109.2%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gyarados in Psychic Terrain: 149-177 (87.6 - 104.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Koko in Psychic Terrain: 188-224 (129.6 - 154.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Bulu in Psychic Terrain: 157-187 (88.7 - 105.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Marowak in Psychic Terrain: 183-216 (109.5 - 129.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Drampa in Psychic Terrain: 164-192 (88.6 - 103.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic in Psychic Terrain: 125-148 (61.8 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2 in Psychic Terrain: 90-107 (46.8 - 55.7%) -- 71.9% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 156+ SpD Arcanine in Psychic Terrain: 138-164 (70 - 83.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Politoed in Psychic Terrain: 153-181 (77.6 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery

LO Moonblast

252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 242-283 (132.2 - 154.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Drampa: 229-273 (123.7 - 147.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 121-142 (89.6 - 105.1%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 283-335 (162.6 - 192.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 257-304 (150.2 - 177.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 105-125 (63.2 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 101-120 (51.2 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

LO Dazzling Gleam

252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Koko: 86-101 (59.3 - 69.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 151-179 (82.5 - 97.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 179-213 (102.8 - 122.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Pheromosa: 281-330 (192.4 - 226%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Alolan Raichu: 75-91 (55.1 - 66.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Lele: 60-71 (41.3 - 48.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 



Bulky Offensive Attacker

[Image: tapulele.png]
 
 
Tapu Lele @ Psychic Seed / Psychium Z
Ability: Psychic Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 116 SpA / 4 SpD / 100 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Moonblast
- Taunt / Natures's Madness / Dazzling Gleam
- Protect

Milestones:
- Outspeeds neutral base 75
- Takes both LO Pheromosa's and Garchomp's Poison Jab and OHKOs back
-OHKOs 4 HP Garchomp with Moonblast
-Takes LO Nihilego's Sludge Bomb with the +1 SpD boost
-Can take a non-boosted Nihilego's Sludge Bomb with the Psychic Seed
-OHKOs Tapu Koko and Nihilego with Psychic with the Psychic Terrain boost

Though this set might seem experimental at best, there's has been a push for more defensive, or bulky variants of Tapu Lele. Here we have a one featuring a new item called Psychic Seed, which gives the user a +1 Special Defense boost when its Psychic Terrain. With Tapu Lele's rather high 115 Special Defense, this allows it to take on some of the stronger Special Attackers in the format, even living a LO hit from Nihilego's Sludge Bomb. Most of the EVs are diverted into HP and a bit of Defense so Tapu Lele can physical hits better, especially Super Effective hits like Poison Jab or Iron Head. In return, Tapu Lele can retaliate and get off one of its STAB options like Psychic Terrain-boosted Psychic, or use a coverage moves listed. 

In terms of other options, Taunt is a great support move to block any potential setup strategies or status options the opponent tries to make. Like all the Tapus, Tapu Lele has access to a new move called Nature's Madness, which in turn is basically Super Fang. If the user is unsure about using one of its coverage move to deal heavy damage, Nature's Madness is a decent alternative to inflict vital chip for Lele's allies. Lastly Dazzling Gleam is a decently strong STAB Fairy coverage which can be used to pick off weaken foes. 

Keep in mind since this Tapu Lele set is meant to be a bulky, it won't immediately OHKO things like its Life Orb / Choice Specs variants can. The goal of this Tapu Lele is to stick around the battle field as long as possible while dealing heavy damage to the opponent. To improve the set's effectiveness, Intimidate  (and even Will-O-Wisp) users like Arcanine can lower the Attack stats of a target by one stage, while ensure Lele can take physical attacker better. Snarl users like Alolan Persian, Arcanine, Mandibuzz, etc can further allow Tapu Lele to tank special hits considerably even with the Psychic Seed boost. 

If for some reason you want "power" from this set, well equip Tapu Lele with a Psychium Z and just everything that's not Dark or Steel insanely hard with Shattered Psyche. Remember that this move will be boosted by the Psychic Terrain as well, making this a deadly attack to almost anything. Just know like a Z-Moves, Tapu Lele can use this once in battle. Don't worry about "wasting" this Z-Move on a "Protect" user, as they'll still take some moderate damage despite the quartered effectiveness. 


Offensive Calcs



Psychic

116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Koko in Psychic Terrain: 145-172 (100 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Xurkitree in Psychic Terrain: 153-180 (96.2 - 113.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Marowak in Psychic Terrain: 138-163 (102.2 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Nihilego in Psychic Terrain: 186-218 (100.5 - 117.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic in Psychic Terrain: 96-114 (47.5 - 56.4%) -- 28.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mudsdale in Psychic Terrain: 130-154 (62.8 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gyarados in Psychic Terrain: 115-136 (67.6 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Moonblast

116+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 186-218 (101.6 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 218-258 (125.2 - 148.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Drampa: 176-210 (95.1 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 194-230 (113.4 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Shattered Psyche (175 Base Power Z - Move from Psychic)

116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gyarados in Psychic Terrain: 222-262 (130.5 - 154.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Wishiwashi-School in Psychic Terrain: 172-204 (113.1 - 134.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 156+ SpD Arcanine in Psychic Terrain: 204-240 (103.5 - 121.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2 in Psychic Terrain: 130-154 (67.7 - 80.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. +1 4 HP / 0 SpD Porygon-Z in Psychic Terrain: 190-225 (118 - 139.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic in Psychic Terrain: 186-220 (92 - 108.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Celesteela in Psychic Terrain: 111-131 (54.4 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
116+ SpA Tapu Lele Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Oranguru in Psychic Terrain: 102-121 (51.7 - 61.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO




Defensive Calcs




252 SpA Nihilego Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Lele: 134-162 (75.7 - 91.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 
252 SpA Salazzle Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Lele: 122-146 (68.9 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Tapu Lele: 146-172 (82.4 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Tapu Lele in Psychic Terrain: 76-91 (42.9 - 51.4%) -- 6.3% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Pheromosa Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Tapu Lele: 148-177 (83.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Celesteela Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Lele: 108-128 (61 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 


 


Choice Scarfer
 
[Image: tapulele.png]

Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Psychic Surge  
Level: 50  
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 236 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Psychic  
- Moonblast  
- Dazzling Gleam  
- Thunderbolt

The following set is a Choice Scarf set almost remeniscent of Scarf Gardevoir back in VGC 14 regarding a "fast" Fairy-type attacker. With its base 95 Speed, this doesn't a big deal for Tapu Lele, however getting a straight knockout into something like Tapu Koko with a STAB Psychic / Moonblast can surely be a suprise for the opponent. Essentially the goal of this set is to "bluff" the Scarf from Tapu Lele and ensure its not "noticed" by the opponent or hinted. If Tapu Lele can is played accordingly, it can be used to get suprised kills, or even so maintain offensive pressure against the opponent. 

In terms of moveslots, Psychic and Moonblast are the main primary choice for Tapu Lele as both are relatively strong special attack which hit most of the format relatively hard. Given Tapu Lele receives a 50% boost in its Psychic attack, it should be enough to pick off an unresisted target. Moonblast can be used to hit any Dark-, Fighting-, or notable Dragon-types on the field. Dazzling Gleam can be quite effective to dealing STAB spread damage against weaken Pokemon, even helpful during late game. Finally Thunderbolt is used to hit Water-,and Flying-types like Celesteela and Gyarados hard. 

In terms of speed output, not this Modest Scarf Tapu Lele can outspeed most target from up to +1 base 80, or notably a Dragon Danced boosted Jolly Gyarados. If Pheromosa is a concern for the team, note that Tapu Lele can just about 172 Speed EVs with Timid Nature. Here are some following Damge Calcs for Scarf Modest Tapu Lele. 



Offensive Calcs:



Psychic Terrain-boosted Psychic


236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp in Psychic Terrain: 142-168 (77.5 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gyarados in Psychic Terrain: 126-148 (74.1 - 87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Koko in Psychic Terrain: 160-189 (109.5 - 129.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Bulu in Psychic Terrain: 133-157 (75.1 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Marowak-Alola in Psychic Terrain: 153-180 (91.6 - 107.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Drampa in Psychic Terrain: 136-162 (73.5 - 87.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic in Psychic Terrain: 106-126 (52.4 - 62.3%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


Moonblast


236+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 204-240 (111.4 - 131.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 102-120 (75.5 - 88.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 236-278 (135.6 - 159.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 212-252 (123.9 - 147.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 84-102 (42.6 - 51.7%) -- 4.3% chance to 2HKO

 Dazzling Gleam


236+ SpA Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Koko: 70-84 (47.9 - 57.5%) -- 90.2% chance to 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 126-150 (68.8 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 28 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 150-176 (86.2 - 101.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Pheromosa: 236-278 (161.6 - 190.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
236+ SpA Tapu Lele Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Lele: 51-60 (35.1 - 41.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO


 


Potential Teammates include, but aren't limited to:
  • Intimidate users - Covers Tapu Lele's low defenses to add survivability. (Ex Arcanine, Krookodile, Salamence, Gyarados, etc).
  • Ground Types - Deals with Poison- / Steel-type Pokemon. (Ex: Krookodile, Garchomp, Mudsdale, etc)
  • Psychic Types - Appeciate boosted STABS ( Metagross, Starmie ) 
  • Steel Types - Are immune to Poison hits ( Metagross, Celesteela, Magnezone)
  • Trick Room / Offensive teams who appreciate the "prioirty" buffer from Psychic Terrain. 
  • Speed Control to allow Tapu Lele to outspeed targets around of above base 95. 


Threats include, but aren't limited to:
  • Steel-types- Metagross, Celesteela, Kartana, Magnezone, etc 
  • Poison-types - Salazzle, Gengar, Nihilego, Alolan Muk, etc 
  • Ghost-types Moves - Gengar, Alola Marowak, Mimikyuu, etc 
  • Fire-types - Arcanine, Salazzle, Torkoal, etc
  • Coverage Moves consisting of Steel, Poison, and Ghost moves. 
  • Opposing Terrains - Tapus (Koko, Lele, Bulu) to remove Psychic Terrain. 
  • Strong physical attacks


Other Notable Options 
  • Defensive Calm Mind set (Can be made max defense) 
  • Kebia / Babiri / Kasib Berry to reduce the damage of any Poison-, Steel-, or Ghost-type attacks. 
  • Choice Specs set will nuke any non resistent target with STAB Psychic / Moonblast
 


Well that about does it for me for now, so cya


RE: [VGC] Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker - croissant - Nov 29, 2016

Very nice!


RE: [VGC] Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker - Black117 - Dec 10, 2016

Alright updated the Tapu Lele thread with a Choice Scarf set which has seen some notable usage as of late.


RE: [VGC] Tapu Lele Moveset - Special Attacker - RebornFX - Jan 20, 2017

I feel like Substitute should be included in the list of notable options, as should Sitrus Berry which has higher usage than Psychic Seed. Focus Sash has also seen quite a bit of usage and can actually be really useful for trading against something expecting to KO you with something like a Z move. Other than that really great write up!