[RATE MY TEAM] Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - Printable Version +- Pokemon Forever (http://pokemonforever.com) +-- Forum: POKéMON (http://pokemonforever.com/Forum-POK%C3%A9MON) +--- Forum: Competitive Pokemon Discussion (http://pokemonforever.com/Forum-Competitive-Pokemon-Discussion) +--- Thread: [RATE MY TEAM] Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU (/Thread-RATE-MY-TEAM-Sun-Moon-Aurora-Veil-Setup-team-OU) |
Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - SilverWolf - Dec 21, 2016 Quote:This is a team I've been tinkering around with and have been having decent success with, but I'm looking for ways to improve it. I don't have any ratios because i don't keep track of that, but I do know that I win more than I lose with this team, but Genesect is a major issue at the moment. RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - Justin - Dec 22, 2016 Hey @SilverWolf I think people might be thinking this is a reply to something since it's in a quote box for some reason. RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - SilverWolf - Dec 22, 2016 oh I just copied and pasted from a word document I wrote up. I've posted RMTs on some other sites and haven't had much luck with replies so I just saved it to a document after typing it up the first time so I wouldn't have to retype it every time. RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - Marcusube - Dec 23, 2016 This is a very fun team from my perspective. It functions well offensively, though defensively it leaves much to be desired. Manaphy will be forced to switch into most of the incoming hits and since it doesn't have any reliable recovery, it goes down rather quickly unless the momentum is in your favour the majority of the time Specs Tapu Lele hinders this team more than helps it. Due to the existing wallcores in the tier, mons like Heatran, Krookodile, Metagross, just to name a few, make it hard to use this set effectively. I will admit its damage output is way above average, however, Tapu Lele appreciates being able to switch between her moves. TwistedSpoon (or its Arceus plate twin) and Life Orb are good options for increasing Tapu Lele's damage output without locking it into one move Keep Waterium-Z on Manaphy. It's very clutch for taking on thicker walls like Skarmory and Jirachi among others. Replace Blizzard for Ice Beam as Ninetales' Hail ends too quickly for Manaphy to exploit the weather condition and spam Blizzard. If you so wish to run Icy Rock on Ninetales over Light Clay then Blizzard can stay High Jump Kick or Trop Kick would be better on Tsareena. Fighting coverage is good for hitting the Steel and Dark types in the tier as well as hitting Chansey for good damage which is vital since this team does struggle with stall archetypes. Trop Kick is good for STAB! Drop Sucker Punch on Dugtrio for Stealth Rock. Hazards are vital for Metagross, Tapu Lele and Manaphy to pressure the opponent and pick up more KOs plus Sucker Punch isn't good when you have Psychic Terrain cancelling it out Aside from that, this team is brick solid for laddering in Pokebank OU :D RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - SilverWolf - Dec 23, 2016 (Dec 23, 2016, 07:43 AM)Marcusube Wrote: This is a very fun team from my perspective. It functions well offensively, though defensively it leaves much to be desired. Manaphy will be forced to switch into most of the incoming hits and since it doesn't have any reliable recovery, it goes down rather quickly unless the momentum is in your favour the majority of the time Thank you very much for your input, I found it to be very helpful and inlightining, I'll be swithcing Lele's item out probably for twisted spoon. I'll swap u-turn for High Jump Kick, and I love Trop Kick but I don't know if I should use that over synthesis or not, Aroma Therapy is a god send along with rapid spin support so I have a hard time justifying it. I normally lead in with Ninetails, but should I start leading with Dugrio instead? RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - SilverWolf - Dec 27, 2016 So I'm trying out Torcaoal as a rapid spinner instead of Tsarena, as much as I hate to get rid of her I just can't deal with grass and steel types like Ferrowthorn effectivly and they wall this team pretty effectivly. Is this a good idea? RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - Marcusube - Dec 28, 2016 Your lead option is supposed to be based on the matchup not on how fast you want to get up Hail or Stealth Rock. Say your opponent leads Kartana against your Ninetales and you get Hail up, if Kartana KOs Ninetales then sends in Pelipper, he gets Rain up which cancels out your hail which destroys your strategy so you have to think matchup-wise and not strategy-wise when leading Torkoal's Drought conflicts with Ninetales' Hail which pretty much destroys the strategy. Alolan Sandslash does get access to Rapid Spin and is benefited by the hail due to Slush Rush so if you really need a Rapid Spinner then you can consider that The problems you're having with Steel and Grass types are attributed to the fact that you don't have sufficient coverage options on your team. It doesn't mean you need to drop Tsureena but you certainly need to look into possibly changing other team members like Tapu Lele, Metagross or Manaphy RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - SilverWolf - Dec 28, 2016 I should have mentioned that I was running white smoke on the torkoal and not drought. The problem with running sandslash is that it gets a 4x weakness to both fire and fighting and while slush rush is good it isn't going to be out paceing anything without a scarf and even that isn't assured, I like A-sandslash, but I think it would hinder the team more than help it. I don't really have trouble with regular grass types, even mega venasaur isn't much of a problem, its just the combination of steel and grass on one mon like ferrowthorn and Scizor causes problems to which is why I put torkoal in so that I won't get walled by them completely. Which of those team members would you suggest dropping and what would you replace it with. Metagross is by far a great fit for the team with powerful physical attack, good bulk, and speed. Manaphy with tail glow behind Aurora veil (and even without) can sweep whole teams, and Lele is just a monster and eliminates priority...I honetly don't know which one I would drop and this isn't a hail team, the only reason I even have it is for Aurora Veil which works wonders. RE: Sun/Moon Aurora Veil Setup team OU - Marcusube - Dec 29, 2016 Well to be honest, Hail hinders this team more than helps it due to the residual damage you take each turn from the weather condition. Moreover you're only using Hail for Aurora Veil which isn't necessary when simply running a Pokemon with Light Clay and dual screens does the exact same thing without compromising team synergy I'd swap Tapu Lele for another special attacker that suits this team's needs because Lele and Metagross have overlapping coverage and Manaphy pretty much does Lele's job of being a powerful special sweeper and wallbreaker. Alternatively Marowak-A can be used to deal with Scizor and Ferrothorn as well as check Electric types with Lightning Rod or you can use Magnezone/Magneton to trap the Steel types and KO them so that Metagross has an easier time sweeping |