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[FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - ChaseInfinity - May 22, 2017

This is a trail run of something were planning in the future, feel free to post what you like and don't like about this, we're planning on making a thread for each other to somewhat centralize the discussion and sets for Pokemon, so the more feedback the better


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Here is a collection of data and Movests for garchomp. Some data is taken from Serebii and movesets can be used in smogon and vgc,
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Pokemon #445 Garchomp
[Image: 445.png]
The Mach Pokemon
Type: Dragon Ground
Strengths: Fire (.5x) Poison (.5x) Rock (.5x)
Weaknesses: Ice (2x) Dragon (2x) Fairy (2x)
Immunity Electric (0x)
Base Stat Total (BST): HP 108 / Atk 130 / Def 95 / SpA 80 / SpD 85 / Spe 102
Moves:

  • Level 0:
    • Dual Chop
    • Fire Fang
    • Tackle
    • Sand Attack
    • Dragon Rage
    • Sandstorm
  • Level 3:
    • Sand Attack
  • Level 7:
    • Dragon Rage
  • Level 13:
    • Sandstorm
  • Level 15:
    • Take Down
  • Level 19:
    • Sand Tomb
  • Level 28:
    • Slash
  • Level 33:
    • Dragon Claw
  • Level 50:
    • Dig
  • Level 55:
    • Dragon Rush
TMs:

  • TM02 - Dragon Claw
  • TM05 - Roar
  • TM06 - Toxic
  • TM10 - Hidden Power
  • TM11 - Sunny Day
  • TM15 - Hyper Beam
  • TM17 - Protect
  • TM18 - Rain Dance
  • TM21 - Frustration
  • TM26 - Earthquake
  • TM27 - Return
  • TM31 - Brick Break
  • TM32 - Double Team
  • TM35 - Flamethrower
  • TM37 - Sandstorm
  • TM38 - Fire Blast
  • TM39 - Rock Tomb
  • TM40 - Aerial Ace
  • TM42 - Facade
  • TM44 - Rest
  • TM45 - Attract
  • TM48 - Round
  • TM54 - False Swipe
  • TM56 - Fling
  • TM59 - Brutal Swing
  • TM65 - Shadow Claw
  • TM68 - Giga Impact
  • TM71 - Stone Edge
  • TM75 - Swords Dance
  • TM78 - Bulldoze
  • TM80 - Rock Slide
  • TM82 - Dragon Tail
  • TM84 - Poison Jab
  • TM87 - Swagger
  • TM88 - Sleep Talk
  • TM90 - Substitute
  • TM94 - Surf
  • TM100 - Confide
Egg Moves:

  • Dragon Breath
  • Outrage
  • Twister
  • Scary Face
  • Double-Edge
  • Thrash
  • Metal Claw
  • Sand Tomb
  • Body Slam
  • Iron Head
  • Mud Shot
  • Rock Climb
  • Iron Tail
Move Tutor Attacks:

  • Draco Meteor
Z-Moves:

  • Breakneck Blitz
  • All-Out Pummeling
  • Supersonic Skystrike
  • Acid Downpour
  • Tectonic Rage
  • Continental Crush
  • Never-Ending Nightmare
  • Corkscrew Crash
  • Inferno Overdrive
  • Hydro Vortex
  • Devastating Drake
  • Black Hole Eclipse
Competitive Sets:
General discussion about this pokemon should be in this post, for more information on how to format your competitive set, click here (link will be added soon)
Here is a list of all the competitive sets:


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RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - RetroTyphlosion - May 22, 2017

Personally, and no offense to anyone, but Garchomp needs some help against Ice types. Maybe it's just the fact that a almost max EV Ice Beam from my Porygon2 is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO (In all my fights, only one Garchomp has survived it), but it's weakness really kills it.

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - croissant - May 22, 2017

I'll reserve some sets for singles:

Choice scarf

Swords Dance

Lead.

@ChaseInfinity is the best user on the website

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - croissant - May 22, 2017

(May 22, 2017, 03:46 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote: Personally, and no offense to anyone, but Garchomp needs some help against Ice types. Maybe it's just the fact that a almost max EV Ice Beam from my Porygon2 is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO (In all my fights, only one Garchomp has survived it), but it's weakness really kills it.

wow a pokémon has a weakness, how surprising!

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - RetroTyphlosion - May 22, 2017

(May 22, 2017, 03:49 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:46 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote: Personally, and no offense to anyone, but Garchomp needs some help against Ice types. Maybe it's just the fact that a almost max EV Ice Beam from my Porygon2 is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO (In all my fights, only one Garchomp has survived it), but it's weakness really kills it.

wow a pokémon has a weakness, how surprising!


I know, every Pokemon has a weakness, but few have a 4x one. Moreover, most weaknesses don't result in OHKOs, except for in Garchomps case.

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - croissant - May 22, 2017

(May 22, 2017, 03:52 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:49 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:46 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote: Personally, and no offense to anyone, but Garchomp needs some help against Ice types. Maybe it's just the fact that a almost max EV Ice Beam from my Porygon2 is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO (In all my fights, only one Garchomp has survived it), but it's weakness really kills it.

wow a pokémon has a weakness, how surprising!


I know, every Pokemon has a weakness, but few have a 4x one. Moreover, most weaknesses don't result in OHKOs, except for in Garchomps case.

thats a lie considering there are a lot of very common and threatening pokémon in every metagame with 4x weaknesses, namely dragonite, ferrothorn, scizor, salamence, landorus, kartana, etc. lol

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - SenpaisLittleEevee - May 22, 2017

@ChaseInfinity

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - RetroTyphlosion - May 22, 2017

(May 22, 2017, 03:53 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:52 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:49 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:46 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote: Personally, and no offense to anyone, but Garchomp needs some help against Ice types. Maybe it's just the fact that a almost max EV Ice Beam from my Porygon2 is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO (In all my fights, only one Garchomp has survived it), but it's weakness really kills it.

wow a pokémon has a weakness, how surprising!


I know, every Pokemon has a weakness, but few have a 4x one. Moreover, most weaknesses don't result in OHKOs, except for in Garchomps case.

thats a lie considering there are a lot of very common and threatening pokémon in every metagame with 4x weaknesses, namely dragonite, ferrothorn, scizor, salamence, landorus, kartana, etc. lol
And what do those 4x weaknesses result in? An OHKO. And if a Pokemon is only going to last for one turn on the field, it is not as effective as it could be. Sure, Garchomp is powerful, and a major A+ tier threat, but because it can be taken out in one hit by a common Porygon2 Ice Beam, it's just not as good as it could be.

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - SenpaisLittleEevee - May 22, 2017

(May 22, 2017, 03:59 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:53 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:52 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:49 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:46 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote: Personally, and no offense to anyone, but Garchomp needs some help against Ice types. Maybe it's just the fact that a almost max EV Ice Beam from my Porygon2 is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO (In all my fights, only one Garchomp has survived it), but it's weakness really kills it.

wow a pokémon has a weakness, how surprising!


I know, every Pokemon has a weakness, but few have a 4x one. Moreover, most weaknesses don't result in OHKOs, except for in Garchomps case.

thats a lie considering there are a lot of very common and threatening pokémon in every metagame with 4x weaknesses, namely dragonite, ferrothorn, scizor, salamence, landorus, kartana, etc. lol
And what do those 4x weaknesses result in? An OHKO. And if a Pokemon is only going to last for one turn on the field, it is not as effective as it could be. Sure, Garchomp is powerful, and a major A+ tier threat, but because it can be taken out in one hit by a common Porygon2 Ice Beam, it's just not as good as it could be.

Idk man, just looks like someone either is looking for excuses not to run a certain mon or is looking to have seriously op mons in the game

RE: [FEEDBACK REQUESTED] Garchomp Summary and Discussion - RetroTyphlosion - May 22, 2017

(May 22, 2017, 04:02 PM)SenpaisLittleEevee Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:59 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:53 PM)écarlate Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:52 PM)RetroTyphlosion Wrote:
(May 22, 2017, 03:49 PM)écarlate Wrote: wow a pokémon has a weakness, how surprising!


I know, every Pokemon has a weakness, but few have a 4x one. Moreover, most weaknesses don't result in OHKOs, except for in Garchomps case.

thats a lie considering there are a lot of very common and threatening pokémon in every metagame with 4x weaknesses, namely dragonite, ferrothorn, scizor, salamence, landorus, kartana, etc. lol
And what do those 4x weaknesses result in? An OHKO. And if a Pokemon is only going to last for one turn on the field, it is not as effective as it could be. Sure, Garchomp is powerful, and a major A+ tier threat, but because it can be taken out in one hit by a common Porygon2 Ice Beam, it's just not as good as it could be.

Idk man, just looks like someone either is looking for excuses not to run a certain mon or is looking to have seriously op mons in the game

I'm not trying to look down on Garchomp or call it a poor Pokemon. It is just easily countered.