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[VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - Hontier - May 18, 2015
![[Image: 334.gif]](http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen6/xy-animated/334.gif)
Base Stats:
HP: 75
Attack: 70
Defense: 90
Sp. Atk: 70
Sp. Def: 105
Speed: 80
Base Stats (When Mega):
HP: 75
Attack: 110
Defense: 110
Sp. Atk: 110
Sp. Def: 105
Speed: 80
Altaria @ Altarianite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 80 Def / 248 SpA / 180 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Beam
Offensive Calculations:
248+ SpA Mega Altaria Ice Beam vs. 140 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 244-288 (134 - 158.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
248+ SpA Mega Altaria Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 104 SpD Clefable: 78-93 (38.6 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
248+ SpA Mega Altaria Moonblast vs. 20 HP / 228 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 114-134 (62.2 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
248+ SpA Mega Altaria Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Garchomp: 156-184 (72.5 - 85.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
248+ SpA Mega Altaria Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 20 SpD Gardevoir: 69-82 (39.4 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
248+ SpA Mega Altaria Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 114-136 (53 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Defensive Calculations:
252+ Atk Technician Breloom Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 80 Def Mega Altaria: 45-54 (29.8 - 35.7%) -- approx. 47.8% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 80 Def Mega Altaria: 66-78 (43.7 - 51.6%) -- 6.3% chance to 2HKO
244+ Atk Conkeldurr Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 80 Def Mega Altaria: 86-102 (56.9 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 80 Def Mega Altaria: 55-66 (36.4 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
144+ SpA Gardevoir Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Altaria: 98-116 (64.9 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Summary:
Altaria not only looks fabulous in its mega evolution and out, but it matches that fabulousness with its moves. Altaria is faster than a lot of commonly used Pokemon in the VGC and also can match a lot of those Pokemon's damage. Ice Beam is just for those Landorus around which will make quick work of them and Hyper Voice which goes well with its STAB, Pixilate, 248 Sp. Atk EV's, and Modest nature. With the 80 Defense EV's worked on to Altaria, it can take enough hits to take the other Pokemon down first. All in all, I hope to see Altaria appearing on the battlefield more.
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - terrorkid94 - May 18, 2015
I'd replace moonblast with a different move
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - Hontier - May 18, 2015
Do you have a suggestion?
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - ChaseInfinity - May 18, 2015
(May 18, 2015, 03:53 PM)terrorkid94 Wrote: I'd replace moonblast with a different move
could be good against wide guarders
btw heres the link for regilar altaria sprite:
http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen6/xy-animated/334.gif
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - Hontier - May 18, 2015
Thanks XD
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - terrorkid94 - May 18, 2015
(May 18, 2015, 04:05 PM)Animekid7 Wrote:(May 18, 2015, 03:53 PM)terrorkid94 Wrote: I'd replace moonblast with a different move
could be good against wide guarders
btw heres the link for regilar altaria sprite:
http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen6/xy-animated/334.gif
True
But if you were to replace moonblast I would suggest protect flamethrower or fire blast
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - Marcusube - May 19, 2015
What is the EV spread trying to achieve. I'm perplexed as to why you have 148 speed EVs. What is it supposed to outspeed? Altaria isn't faster than most of the VGC threats to date; Kangaskhan, Landorus, Hydreigon, Gengar, Liepard, Thundurus etc. all outspeed it and threaten it. I'm also wondering why no damage calcs were added for things such as Aegislash's Flash Cannon, Bisharp's Iron Head or Sylveon's Hyper Voice.
The move set really dives at itself seeing as how Fairy hits what Dragon hits for coverage (and even more) making Dragon coverage pretty useless, Moonblast AND Hyper Voice being kinda redundant seeing as how they both function the same way and if the aim is to avoid Wide Guard then it would make more sense just to remove the Wide Guard user with a different coverage move such as Draco Meteor (not Dragon Pulse, this just does way more damage than Altaria can muster with its other moves) or Fire Blast. It isn't a bad build but the move choices don't complement the EV spread seeing as how this Altaria was meant for speed but the absence of Dragon Dance means its only outspeeding base 70s and below who still give it a hard time. Also, why no Protect?
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - Hontier - May 19, 2015
Sorry, Marcusube, you have a point, I'm new to this so thanks for the comment!
RE: [VGC] Altaria Moveset - Attack (Special) - Marcusube - May 19, 2015
Hey man, no need to apologize and you're welcome