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Help me with the kanto classic! - andre_2112 - Feb 4, 2016
Hi this is my first draw for the kanto classic but need some help to chose what physical attacker is better and what to improve.
Dragonite
Atk 76 /SpAtk 252 / Speed 182
multiscale
-Hurricane/Dragon pulse
-Thunder
-Scald
-Earthquake
Arcanine
Hp 248 / Atk 10 / Def 252
Intimidate
-Extreme speed
-Flare blitz
-Morning sun
-Crunch
Clefable
Hp 252 / Def 252 / SpDef 6
Magic Guard
-Moonblast
-Calm Mind
-Moonlight
-Protect
Starmie (special attacker)
SpAtk 252 / SpDef 6 / Speed 252
Natural Cure
-Scald/Surf
-Psyshock
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
Venosaur
Hp 232 / SpAtk 252 / SpDef 6 / Speed 20
Chlorophyll
-Giga Drain
-Sludgde Bomb
-Hidden power(fire)
-Amnesia
Then one of thease for physical attack
Machamp OR Nidoking
Hp 172 / Atk 252 / Speed 86 Hp 6 / Atk 252
No guard Sheer Force
-Dynamic Punch -Poison Jab
-Stone Edge -Thunder punch
-Bullet Punch -Sucker Punch
-Knock off -Earthquake
Tell me what do you think
Thanks!!!
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - 42max Turtke - Feb 4, 2016
Hmmm, nice team! I think you should go with Nidoking as most people go for Clefable.
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - andre_2112 - Feb 4, 2016
(Feb 4, 2016, 05:57 PM)CharizardSoOP21 Wrote: Hmmm, nice team! I think you should go with Nidoking as most people go for Clefable.
Thanks and yeah Nidoking could help with that
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - croissant - Feb 5, 2016
I personnally like to have both a defensive wall/tank and a specially defensive one, and I see both Arcanine and Clelfable are physically defensive. However, your Clefable runs Calm Mind, so it's really your choice, and in this format, two physical walls are not bad either since I saw a lot of Dragonite and Nidoking on Showdown. Anyways, I recommend you test out your team on Showdown, they added the Kanto Classic format and with practice, you can spot your team's weaknesses.
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - andre_2112 - Feb 6, 2016
@le2017 Thanks for the idea I was testing it and did good but think that need that special defense wall. Have any recomendation for a pokemon that could work in my team for Sp wall?
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - croissant - Feb 6, 2016
(Feb 6, 2016, 10:06 AM)andre_2112 Wrote: @le2017 Thanks for the idea I was testing it and did good but think that need that special defense wall. Have any recomendation for a pokemon that could work in my team for Sp wall?
Well of course Chansey is the most common one but I'll look on smogon and I'll come back with other suggestions. :D
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - croissant - Feb 6, 2016
Ok, so I checked and Hypno can be ok I guess, Blastoise and Vaporeon are pretty good, Chansey and Tentacruel are both pretty effective in my experience, Articuno is great but is too crippled by Stealth Rock, that's pretty much it. It really depends on your team's weaknesses I think.
RE: Help me with the kanto classic! - Marcusube - Feb 6, 2016
I would recommend using a Dragon Dance Dragonite set
Extreme Speed for priority, Aqua Tail to eliminate Dragonite's checks, mainly Golem and Rhydon. It also hits Charizard, Moltres, Ninetales and Arcanine for a lot. You can run Waterfall if you value flinch chance over higher damage output and slightly lower accuracy
Max speed offensive Arcanine does more now because most people will be running max speed Exeggutor who can threaten a slow Arcanine with Sleep Powder. It's here or there really but the set does work. I would honestly scrap Crunch for either Dragon Pulse or Close Combat. Dragon Pulse for neutral hits (even though it won't be doing much) and Close Combat breaks common rock types.
Unaware Clefable is a better option for dealing with opposing DDance Dragonite and run Wish so you can heal your Dragonite as well as your other team mates.
Sleep Powder is better than Amnesia on this set to be honest and Synthesis keeps Venusaur around longer. No reason to really run HP Fire either
Keep Nidoking and run it mixed with Earth Power, Sucker Punch, Sludge Wave and Thunderbolt/Ice Beam with max speed and special attack EVs alongside a Timid nature
Your team needs hazard control so run Rapid Spin on Starmie over Thunderbolt or Ice Beam (depending on which you think help less).
Your team needs more special walls so maybe run a specially defense Venusaur.
Yeah, that's it. Your team looks pretty decent otherwise