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[SUN/MOON] Leo/Fire/Lion Based team for sun and moon
#1
I know this is a bit silly but I have been challenged to make a Leo(astral sign) based team for doubles, I needed some ideas since i can't seem to come up with anything concrete, I was hoping for some feedback if any of you had any, I'm attempting not to use Lengendaries as Solgaleo seems to be a very clear option but I'm not going to dismiss anything, thank you in advance for any time you put into this!

Edit

Just to clarify, Its pretty clear that their aren't very many Lions in the game, but stuff related to the leo sign help as well, The Sun, Birth stone is Peridot, It's a Fire sign, Leo's are related to Leadership
I was kinda thinking Maybe Arcanine, though I'm not sure how he fits with the sign, thus why I was asking for any suggestions, Please and Thank you!
#2
Pyroar seems like the most obvious lion Pokémon. It's not a very good Pokémon, but here's something for doubles:

Pyroar @ Choice Specs/Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Unnerve
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid nature
- Heat Wave
- Hyper Voice
- HP-Grass
- Protect
(Overheat or Flamethrower over Protect if Specs)
This set deals some okay spread damage, while HP-Grass hits Rock types that resist Pyroar's STAB moves.
Just max dmg and speed is the most useful.
A support set with moves like Snarl, Helping Hand, Overheat and Will-O-Wisp/Protect with Timid 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 Spe or something, Focus Sash, could be used. I have not tested any of this cause Pyroar isnt very good, but it's the first thing that comes to mind thinking Leo, and these seem to be the most optimal Double sets. Can be customized for more specific things ofc.

Cheers
"To believe in an ideal, is to be willing to betray it"
                 VGC, Friend Safari, Masuda
#3
(Jan 17, 2018, 05:41 AM)PerchPond Wrote: Pyroar seems like the most obvious lion Pokémon. It's not a very good Pokémon, but here's something for doubles:

Pyroar @ Choice Specs/Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Unnerve
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid nature
- Heat Wave
- Hyper Voice
- HP-Grass
- Protect
(Overheat or Flamethrower over Protect if Specs)
This set deals some okay spread damage, while HP-Grass hits Rock types that resist Pyroar's STAB moves.
Just max dmg and speed is the most useful.
A support set with moves like Snarl, Helping Hand, Overheat and Will-O-Wisp/Protect with Timid 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 Spe or something, Focus Sash, could be used. I have not tested any of this cause Pyroar isnt very good, but it's the first thing that comes to mind thinking Leo, and these seem to be the most optimal Double sets. Can be customized for more specific things ofc.

Cheers
This was way more than I was expecting! Thank you very much, I assumed I was only going to get pokemon suggestions, but you gave it the best build you could think of, I appreciate that!
#4
That's supposed to be used in VGC18.



Hard Chariz (Charizard-Mega-Y) (F) @ Charizardite Y  
Ability: Drought  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Heat Wave  
- Solar Beam  
- Overheat  
- Protect  
(Jan 16, 2018, 11:44 PM)Ozmodayis Wrote: The Sun
Here's to you.



Top Lel (Tapu Lele) @ Psychium Z  
Ability: Psychic Surge  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Psychic  
- Moonblast  
- Skill Swap  
- Protect  

A true lion must have a sense of justice which leads it to understand what is more important and what is less important: it doesn't need priority moves, because it knows perfectly its priorities. Your team MUST use Psychic Terrain to show your superiority to those sheep of your opponents.



Big Meta (Metagross-Mega) @ Metagrossite  
Ability: Tough Claws  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Iron Head  
- Zen Headbutt  
- Stomping Tantrum  
- Protect  

Proud and majestic like a lion.



Neptunus (Suicune) @ Wiki Berry  
Ability: Pressure  
Level: 50  
EVs: 236 HP / 172 SpD / 100 Spe  
Calm Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Tailwind  
- Icy Wind  
- Snarl  
- Scald  

It seems a leopard.
Leopards are felines.
Also lions are felines, so...



OverOverUsed (Landorus-Therian) @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Intimidate  
Level: 50  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 20 SpD / 228 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Earthquake  
- Rock Slide  
- Superpower  
- U-turn  

What a fantastic mane, isn't it?



A peace of Green (Venusaur) (F) @ Groundium Z  
Ability: Chlorophyll  
Level: 50  
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Sleep Powder  
- Sludge Bomb  
- Protect  
- Earthquake

Ok, Idk how to justify this. Rip.







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Hard Chariz (Charizard-Mega-Y) (F) @ Charizardite Y  
Ability: Drought  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Heat Wave  
- Solar Beam  
- Overheat  
- Protect  

Top Lel (Tapu Lele) @ Psychium Z  
Ability: Psychic Surge  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Psychic  
- Moonblast  
- Skill Swap  
- Protect  

Big Meta (Metagross-Mega) @ Metagrossite  
Ability: Tough Claws  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Iron Head  
- Zen Headbutt  
- Stomping Tantrum  
- Protect  

Neptunus (Suicune) @ Wiki Berry  
Ability: Pressure  
Level: 50  
EVs: 236 HP / 172 SpD / 100 Spe  
Calm Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Tailwind  
- Icy Wind  
- Snarl  
- Scald  

OverOverUsed (Landorus-Therian) @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Intimidate  
Level: 50  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 20 SpD / 228 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Earthquake  
- Rock Slide  
- Superpower  
- U-turn  

A peace of Green (Venusaur) (F) @ Groundium Z  
Ability: Chlorophyll  
Level: 50  
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Sleep Powder  
- Sludge Bomb  
- Protect  
- Earthquake
#5
(Jan 18, 2018, 06:04 AM)Spyro190 Wrote: That's supposed to be used in VGC18.



Hard Chariz (Charizard-Mega-Y) (F) @ Charizardite Y  
Ability: Drought  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Heat Wave  
- Solar Beam  
- Overheat  
- Protect  
(Jan 16, 2018, 11:44 PM)Ozmodayis Wrote: The Sun
Here's to you.



Top Lel (Tapu Lele) @ Psychium Z  
Ability: Psychic Surge  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Psychic  
- Moonblast  
- Skill Swap  
- Protect  

A true lion must have a sense of justice which leads it to understand what is more important and what is less important: it doesn't need priority moves, because it knows perfectly its priorities. Your team MUST use Psychic Terrain to show your superiority to those sheep of your opponents.



Big Meta (Metagross-Mega) @ Metagrossite  
Ability: Tough Claws  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Iron Head  
- Zen Headbutt  
- Stomping Tantrum  
- Protect  

Proud and majestic like a lion.



Neptunus (Suicune) @ Wiki Berry  
Ability: Pressure  
Level: 50  
EVs: 236 HP / 172 SpD / 100 Spe  
Calm Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Tailwind  
- Icy Wind  
- Snarl  
- Scald  

It seems a leopard.
Leopards are felines.
Also lions are felines, so...



OverOverUsed (Landorus-Therian) @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Intimidate  
Level: 50  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 20 SpD / 228 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Earthquake  
- Rock Slide  
- Superpower  
- U-turn  

What a fantastic mane, isn't it?



A peace of Green (Venusaur) (F) @ Groundium Z  
Ability: Chlorophyll  
Level: 50  
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Sleep Powder  
- Sludge Bomb  
- Protect  
- Earthquake

Ok, Idk how to justify this. Rip.







Export

Hard Chariz (Charizard-Mega-Y) (F) @ Charizardite Y  
Ability: Drought  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Heat Wave  
- Solar Beam  
- Overheat  
- Protect  

Top Lel (Tapu Lele) @ Psychium Z  
Ability: Psychic Surge  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Psychic  
- Moonblast  
- Skill Swap  
- Protect  

Big Meta (Metagross-Mega) @ Metagrossite  
Ability: Tough Claws  
Level: 50  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Iron Head  
- Zen Headbutt  
- Stomping Tantrum  
- Protect  

Neptunus (Suicune) @ Wiki Berry  
Ability: Pressure  
Level: 50  
EVs: 236 HP / 172 SpD / 100 Spe  
Calm Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Tailwind  
- Icy Wind  
- Snarl  
- Scald  

OverOverUsed (Landorus-Therian) @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Intimidate  
Level: 50  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 20 SpD / 228 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Earthquake  
- Rock Slide  
- Superpower  
- U-turn  

A peace of Green (Venusaur) (F) @ Groundium Z  
Ability: Chlorophyll  
Level: 50  
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Sleep Powder  
- Sludge Bomb  
- Protect  
- Earthquake

That is Certainly an Interesting idea, and I thank you for coming up with it! Ill give it a try!


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