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[VGC] Porygon2 - Support (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Black117 - Oct 17, 2015 Art by Krisantyne "Meet the new and improved ... AnimeKid2!"
(VGC) Porygon2 - Utility (Trick Room Setter/Pivot) 2 Options Type: Normal Base Stats: 85 HP / 80 Attack / 90 Defense / 105 Special Attack / 95 Special Defense / 60 Speed Weaknesses: Fighting (x2) Resistances: None Immunities: Ghost (x0) Abilities: Trace: - Changes the user's main ability (Trace) into the Ability of the opponent. In Doubles, Triples, and Horde battles, Trace randomly copies the ability of one of the opposing adjacent Pokemon's ability to its use. Here are the following abilities Trace cannot copy and won't activate: Multitype, Illusion, Flower Gift, Imposter, or Stance Change. If the of of the opposing Pokemon has either of these abilities in a Double Battle, Trace will automatically copy the other opponent's ability. If this isn't the case, the Trace user will have to wait to for another Pokemon to activate the ability which isn't any of the five mentioned here. Download: - Raises the attack or special attack by one stage of the user depending on the lowest defensive stats (defense or special defense) as it switches into the battle. Download will raise the user's attack if the opponent's defense stats is lower than special defense, or increase special attack if special defense is either lower or equal to its defense. For Double/Triple Battles, Download compares opposing Pokemons' sum of all their defense and special defense separately and follows the same formula mentioned above. Analytic: - Boosts the power of moves by 30% when the user goes last after the opposing target went first. Overview
In a metagame where Pocket Monsters can easily OHKO one another with either just two-pronged attacks from a mutant kangaroo and a baby Joey (or whatever you call that thing), screeching Fairies, Kamikaze birds/dragons/kangaroos, treacherous genies, cursed swords, lava turtles, flying lizards causing droughts, or anything else will result to Trainers searching for solutions to stop the onslaught. Today we turn to one Pokemon with a stone filled with the latest technological enhancements can suppress the incoming carnage. Its its up to this one Pokemon...or should we say duck: Porygon2! Ok overly exaggerated points about Pokemon aside, Porygon2 has seen a rise in usage following the start and the current post VGC 2015 Worlds metagame partly because its ability to check some of the most common and high tiered Pokemon thanks to its Eviolite item. Introduced in Gen 5, Eviolite has turn some Not-Fully-Evolved Pokemon like Chansey and Porygon2 into incredibly bulky Pokemon by receiving a 50% boost in both defensive stats. Given how Porygon2 already has a fairly solid 85 HP / 90 Def / 90 Sp. Def defensive stats, the Evolite item turns Porygon2's overall defenses to a whopping 85 HP / 145 Def / 152 Sp. Def given after adjusting the stat totals in a damage calculator. One of Porygon2's greatest strength is having a rather flexible EV spread similar to Cresselia given how it has three somewhat viable abilities in Trace/Download/Analytic to chose from. Unlike most Trick Room setters, Porygon2 has the distinct advantage of being immune to Aegislash's Shadow Ball and tanks Flash Cannons. Other Dark types are won't be able to knock out Porygon2 without having to double target onto the slot as well. While Porygon2 is able to setup Trick Room and function as an effective pivot, its will quickly find itself worn down after taking repeated hits from possible double targets. This is practically due to Porygon2's lack of resistances bar its sole immunity to Ghost, which no one is going to attack the duck with a Ghost type move anyways unless its switch into one. One thing to note about Porygon2 is that its not a one size fits all Pokemon, rather a strong pivot for a switch ins and/or a viable Trick Room setter who can beat Aegislash 1v1. Ability Discussion: Trace, Download, or Analytic
Given how Porygon2 has three potentially viable abilities which can drastically change role for its team, we'll go over the abilities based on a competitive standpoint starting by order introduced. Another reason for having this additional section is all of these abilities aren't say "reliable" anyways given how each requires a condition for it to be useful like having to get a random ability from either target, whether Porygon2 gets its +1 in special attack boost, or can go last after its target has gone before. Trick Room Setter Porygon2 @ Eviolite Ability: Trace Level: 50 EVs: 244 HP / 180 Def / 8 SpA / 76 SpD Relaxed Nature IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 1 Spe - Ice Beam - Hidden Power [Ground] / Thunderbolt / Tri Attack - Recover / Protect - Trick Room Milestones: -Double Edge from max attack Jolly Mega Salamence is a 3HKO. -Gets 3HKOed by Choice Specs 252 SpA Modest Sylveon's Hyper Voice (spread damage). -Jolly max attack Mega Kangaskhan has a 5.6% to 2HKO. -Can KO 4 HP Naive Mega Salamence and standard Landorus-T with Ice Beam -Can 2HKO 104 HP Heatran with just Hidden Power Ground. -Dumped Special Defense Notice: If the IVs aren't "suitable" (for HP Ground), just run an EV spread as shown with the lowest possible speed IV stat for Trick Room. The EV spread will have one extra point for special defense, though the same 4 leftover EVs if either speed or attack is 0 IV. One of the main advantages Eviolite Porygon2 has over most other Trick Room setters like Mega Gardevoir, Cresselia, Dusclops, Whimsicott, Cofagrigus, Gothitelle, Jellicent, and Aromatisse is the lack of Ghost, Dark, or Steel weakness. Given that all these three attack respectively do neutral damage against Porygon2, the only way in which the opponent can stop the incoming Trick Room is by double targeting, or using either Taunt, Spore, or a phazing move. This is the main goal for Porygon2 by setuping up multiple Trick Rooms throughout the battle in order to maintain speed control for its slower team. Ice Beam is a must on nearly ever Porygon2 sets as it allows it to handle Dragon, Grass, Ground, and Flying types such as the common Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, Thundurus, Zapdos, etc. Hidden Power Ground is a tech move for Porygon2 to hopefully 2HKO most non Shuca Berry Heatrans as well as catch Aegislash off by surprise in Blade form. Porygon2 is a great lure options against these two Pokemon thinking they're safe against a Porygon2 with just Ice and Electric/Normal coverage. If you can get access to an HP Ground Porygon2, Thunderbolt is an alternative in case Water and Flying types become problematic. Tri Attack is Porygon2's STAB best attack with the chance of either causing either a burn, paralysis, or freeze. Recover allows Porygon2 to regain about 50% of its health to maintain its usefulness as a bulky Trick Room setter. Protect is an alternative for Recover while losing a replenishing option, Porygon2 can shield itself against double targeting. Damage Calculations Offensive - Most of the damage calculations will focus on Ice Beam and Hidden Power Ground. This is also with having any sorta stat boost on Porygon2 Defensive - With 244 HP / 180 Def / 72 SpD Relaxed Nature Evolite and 30 IVs in Special Defense Pivot Special Attacker Porygon2 @ Eviolite Ability: Download Level: 50 EVs: 244 HP / 132 Def / 120 SpA / 8 SpD / 4 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 SpD - Ice Beam - Hidden Power [Ground] / Thunderbolt / Tri Attack - Recover - Toxic / Thunder Wave / Foul Play Notice: Porygon2 must have 30 IVs in both special attack and special defense in order to have Hidden Power Ground. An optimal EV spread can be the following: EVs: 244 HP / 132 Def / 116 SpA / 12 SpD / 4 Spe. Milestones - OHKOS most Non-Assault Vest/Yache Berry Landorus-T, and Mega Salamence variants. -Jolly Mega Kangaskhan's Return with max attack has a minuscule 0.1% to 2HKO Porygon2. -With Download boost, can OHKO 4 HP Heatran, and deals heavy damage to Aegislash in Blade form. -Choice Specs Sylveon with Modest max special attack is still a 3HKO. What makes Porygon2 a viable option over an established Pokemon like Cresselia is its able to confront Pokemon like Aegislash or Heatran better with its higher special attack and potential Download boost. As mentioned in the Download section, the key is to find an opportunity to get a +1 in special attack so Porygon2 can actually start dealing significant damage to its opponents with the coverage options available. Ice Beam is a standard on most Porygon2 sets as it able to OHKO most variants of Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, and Garchomp while KOing most "bulkier" variants after a Download boost. HP Ground is much more stronger in a Download build than from Trace (unless Porygon2 gets Parental Bond) given it has the chance to OHKO 4 HP Heatran and severely damage Aegislash in blade form by doing around 87%. This is all assuming that Porygon2 is able to get the Download boost in special attack, otherwise it as to result to being a subpar special attacker. Toxic is one way to let Porygon2 break most bulkier sets like Suicune, Milotic, Cresselia, Sylveon, etc by wearing them down turn by turn. With Recover at hand, the virtual Pokemon can effectively stall its opponents enough so that Porygon2's allies can potentially net the knock outs. Here are a couple of options for Porygon2 con run as well. Thunder Wave is a great form of speed control by quartering the opposing Pokemon's speed stat with the added 25% chance of paralyzing the opponent's Pokemon. Foul Play is another option to have on Porygon2 as it can straight up OHKO Blade form Aegislash by using is own high attack. This practically ensure that any attack setup will get punished by just using Foul Play. Thunderbolt forms a strong "bolt-beam" coverage with Ice Beam in case HP Ground isn't an option for Porygon2 as well as damage most Water and Flying type Pokemon. Tri Attack is Porygon2's strongest STAB option as it can deal the most damage against neutral opponents with the added chance of either burning, paralyzing, or freezing a target. Damage Calculations Offensive - All the damage calculations were done with 120 SpA with a Modest. Download boost will be included on some of the sections. Defensive - With 244 HP / 132 Def / 8 SpD Modest Nature (Neutral) and 30 IVs in Special Defense Potential Teammates include, but aren't limited to;
Threats
Other Notable Moves Here are a list of notable attack in which Porygon2 can utilize well:
For those who got this far thanks for reading this article! RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Marcusube - Oct 17, 2015 Kiev you are a Lord! Also, for an analytic Porygon2build, I have one in my Medicham VGC team thread. I'd type it out here but I'm a bit confined rn. Great build man. EDIT: Here is the set. Got back on ma PC so now I can share it :] Matchbox (Porygon2) @ Eviolite Ability: Analytic Level: 50 EVs: 244 HP / 64 Def / 84 SpA / 116 SpD Quiet Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Tri Attack - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam - Recover Offensive Calcs: 84+ SpA Analytic Porygon2 Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Suicune: 92-110 (44.4 - 53.1%) -- 24.2% chance to 2HKO 84+ SpA Analytic Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Landorus-T: 180-212 (109 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 84+ SpA Analytic Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Salamence: 240-284 (140.3 - 166%) -- guaranteed OHKO 84+ SpA Analytic Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 244 HP / 72+ SpD Thundurus: 112-132 (60.5 - 71.3%) -- 90.2% chance to 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery Defensive Calcs: 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 244 HP / 64 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 101-123 (52.8 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. 244 HP / 64 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 138-164 (72.2 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Adaptability Mega Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 244 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 120-144 (62.8 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Salamence Double-Edge vs. 244 HP / 64 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 99-117 (51.8 - 61.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 244 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 55-66 (28.7 - 34.5%) -- 3.2% chance to 3HKO RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Delta - Oct 17, 2015 No! Not another duck! Not after *shudders* DuckHuntSwan. RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - ChaseInfinity - Oct 17, 2015 I'm so proud of this thread, great job Kiev Animekid2 will rein supreme RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - PKPatriot56 - Oct 17, 2015 Hory mory Kiev, you really went all out here. Definitely a Pokemon I've been meaning to try out. Keep up the good work! RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Podfighterninja123 - Oct 17, 2015 The sad part is that Eckley hasnt insulted Pk yet RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Eckley - Oct 17, 2015 I don't want to insult him, I love him RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Podfighterninja123 - Oct 17, 2015 (Oct 17, 2015, 04:34 PM)Eckley Wrote: I don't want to insult him, I want him to insult me cause i hate him with all my guts awww thats cute RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - PKPatriot56 - Oct 17, 2015 (Oct 17, 2015, 04:34 PM)Eckley Wrote: I don't want to insult him, I love him Pod wants to separate us. Be wary. RE: [VGC] Porygon2 (Trick Room/Pivot) 2 options - Podfighterninja123 - Oct 17, 2015 (Oct 17, 2015, 04:40 PM)PKPatriot56 Wrote:(Oct 17, 2015, 04:34 PM)Eckley Wrote: I don't want to insult him, I love him Nooo, thats not what i want to do....... -throws pk into the dome- |