Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon

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(Jan 11, 2015, 11:00 PM)Wallace Wrote:

(Jan 11, 2015, 10:51 PM)adolf hipstar Wrote: i totally do not support this decision,greninja is THE MOST POWERFUL STARTER IN THE POKEMON SERIES BUT it is not invincible.i myself keep grninja on my team and he may be an excellent pokemon but his defenses are terrible.one bubble beam can do so much of damage

Yeah, you're right. I ran some calcs on a HP down nature level 28 Greninja and bubble beam OHKOs it, I'm pretty sure they banned it based on the integrity of the tier, you have to take out the trash sometimes.

Yeah I was using my level 30 Greninja and used surf in a doubles match against 2 level 50 Vaporeons with Water Absorb and OHKO'd both along with the trainer. They might have had a happiness down nature.