Mar 27, 2015, 09:49 AM
(Mar 27, 2015, 08:54 AM)Marcusube Wrote: First of all, thanks for the credit for my Cincinno build
Max out the speed EVs on Medicham. Its frail anyway so HP investments won't do you much good here. I recommend Drain Punch over HJK and LK because it hits everything for 75 plus Medicham's attack stat plus this move kills everything it hits super effectively. I also suggest running Psycho Cut over Zen Headbutt. The accuracy factor really counts here because I remember a match where someone had been using a Metagross against me and missed Zen Headbutt twice in a row. Also the high crit ratio generally helps out in the latter game.
Dragonite isn't really viable for this years VGC, especially on the kind of team you're using. Mamoswine is very common this season and it can break through your Multiscale and OHKO you, not to mention that Fake Out makes your Multiscale redundant.
Empoleon isn't bad but it isn't good this year either. It gets destroyed by more than half the threats this year and it cannot handle the things that it resists very well (Sylveon, Aegislash, Talonflame).
Running Cincinno would be a great idea. What's not such a great idea is running it without checking ways to avoid priority and status moves such as Twave and Will-o-wisp. Drop one of the team mates above and make the adjustment if you wish to run this effectively.
Florges isn't viable in this years VGC either (I think I've been saying this too much). It has great Special Attack and Special Defense but in this metagame which is focused around more physical attackers, Florges won't be hanging around for very long.
If you plan to run Torterra, do not use a singles moveset. As you should know, set up moves aren't invited in VGC. It is okay to use 1 but 2 is overdoing it. To make Torterra really shine, try using it for Wide Guard support (if you need it) or do something really devious like use Worry Seed to cancel out abilities such as Parental Bond, Aerialate, Pixilate, Defiant, Competitive, etc. All I can say is RUN THIS THING!
In conclusion, I can sympathize with you since this is your first VGC attempt but you cannot just throw 6 Pokemon together without having a game plan or checks to other common strategies in VGC.
Check out nuggetbridge and the global link's rating battle section to see how the meta game is evolving and what people are bringing to VGC
Here, here, here and here are good sources of information to get you up to speed with VGC
Thanks for such honest and direct feedback. You're absolutely right with everything you've said, so I've made some adjustments based on your thoughts.
Medicham now looks like this:
Medicham w/ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
- Drain Punch
- Fake Out
- Psycho Cut
- Thunder Punch
You're right about me not having thoroughly taken into consideration Will-o-Wisp wrecking my face. It was naive of me to think I could just offensively beat down numerous things without taking some defensive and restorative tactics into consideration. So, I thought perhaps this would be a good way of dealing with that--drop Florges for Blissey. Here's the set that I think might work to fill this role, plus be a little bit annoying and disruptive in her own right:
Blissey w/ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 Special Defense
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Soft Boiled
- Thunder Wave
What do you think? Is that a feasible replacement for Florges, in addition to supporting my team better in terms of checking WoW and T-Wave spam that I may face?
Moving on, I agree that my Torterra needed further tweaking for VGC. Based on your suggestion, as well as z2porygon's comment, I've updated the Torterra to look like this:
Torterra w/ Lum Berry
Ability: Shell Armor
Nature: Bold
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Defense / 76 Special Defense
- Earthquake
- Leech Seed
- Wide Guard
- Worry Seed (I loved this)
With these adjustments, do you think the team might be okay? It seems like Dragonite may still need to go, but it's so adorable. T^T In all seriousness, I wonder what would be a better option here. I think the Empoleon could work, but I've received other negative feedback about the Dragonite, and I'm not sure if it can be saved and reworked, or just needs to be replaced entirely. Taking into consideration these tweaks, what would be your honest opinion here?
Thanks, Marcus! I appreciate your time and help!
xx
