Milotic - Tank (Maranga) (2 Options)

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(Sep 28, 2015, 03:42 PM)RebornFX Wrote:

(Sep 28, 2015, 03:29 PM)podfighterninja123 Wrote:

(Sep 28, 2015, 03:22 PM)RebornFX Wrote:

(Sep 28, 2015, 02:53 PM)MudkipLegend Wrote: I dont know what youre talking about lol Living an Ice beam is a necessity, especially for the most common type in the current meta game. Cybertron's Mence was Max Speed Max attack and Jolly. It ran draco because even with a minus nature it still outsped and OKHO'd other Mences. Bulk wins VGC, the longer your pokemon stays alive the better youre going to do. Zheng's biggest mistake was bringing frail mons like Salamence and Blaziken. CM Sylveon looked good on paper but with all the rock slides it wouldnt cut it. AV Swampert just simply wasnt a good choice either. Goth and Ferro were the bulkiest he has and a great pair with the combo of trick room, leech seed, and Shadow tag. This just turned into a Cybertron team report on what went wrong anyways my point is this. Mence needs to live ice attacks to beat other mons such as Amoongus, Other Dragons, Mega Garde, and Breloom.

Firstly, I'm not sure what team you are referring to with that Salamence build, but the Salamence on the team you are mentioning had max attack and an Adamant nature (as mentioned here: https://youtu.be/o8T-vkqZDLY?t=25m6s).
The team I was referring to is this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0oGDSf3h84

And I'm not a fan of your blanket statement of 'Bulk wins VGC'. Obviously keeping your pokemon on the field is important, but whether a pokemon needs to survive certain attacks depends on its role on the team. I don't think in this team Salamence needed to be taking HP ice/Ice beams, he had switch ins being Aegislash and Rotom-W and redirection in Amoonguss (though not ideal, still an option). Sometimes a Pokemon functions better with a fully offensive investment and I think in this particular case that's true.

Slow your roll here bud, Bulk makes VGC, Not wins it, True, But that doesnt mean you go and link a Nationals Video when your talking about a Worlds Team. And Most Salamences DO LIVE A ICE BEAM and WILL LIVE ONE.....

Also Offensive Amoonguss works better than a bulkier one? Never would of knew

I link the team containing a Salamence with the spread that he said that nobody uses, created by a strong VGC player which he found success with in Nationals. He is the only person who brought up his Worlds team, and I only linked the other video to correct him that the nature was Adamant not Jolly. I'm not talking about the Worlds team...

And sure, most might. It doesn't mean that a set which doesn't is bad. If you have to take an ice beam to be able to win against a matchup against a particular pokemon then there is something wrong with the team. That is my point. And I'm not sure what point you are trying to get across with your offensive Amoonguss statement.

Edit: I think you need to read over what I've said and quote me where I say bulk is never necessary.

Listen bud, youre killing my Laptop's battery and my brain cells. Im just gonna assume youre new to VGC and let you tell people what you think you know. When you come up into the big leagues youre in for a rude awakening.