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Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon
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I think some of you are missing the point. It wasn't banned to Ubers simply because "we couldn't find anything to beat it." We know that Guts Conkeldurr can almost OHKO with a mach punch before it changes typing. We know that Talonflame can OHKO it. Once again, thats not the problem.

Lets say I lead with Greninja and you lead with Conkeldurr. I know you're going to try and mach punch me, so I safely switch out into my tornadus. I take little damage, I out speed with this as well, and I'm now going to OHKO your Conkeldurr who threatened my Greninja.

Or different story. You lead with Talonflame and I lead with Greninja. I know you'll OHKO, so I switch out into Heatran. You literally can't touch my Heatran so lets say you switch out. I predict your switch and lay down stealth rocks. Now your Talonflame is almost useless thanks to the rocks. Even if you stay in and put up something like a swords dance, I'm running ancient power to OHKO your Talonflame.

Does that make more sense? It's not just the pokemon. It's how easy I can build around it. The small checks and counters you could list, all could easily be reverse countered by my other 5 Pokemon. There's no point in you having a counter for something, if I can counter your counter with ease. Because once I take out that 1-2 checks on your team, my Greninja is free to run wild.


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Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by AshenKrow - Jan 11, 2015, 10:17 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 11, 2015, 10:45 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Wallace - Jan 11, 2015, 11:00 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 11, 2015, 11:02 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Wallace - Jan 11, 2015, 11:04 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by tygaa2 - Jan 12, 2015, 03:34 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 11, 2015, 11:11 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by tygaa2 - Jan 12, 2015, 03:20 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Black117 - Jan 12, 2015, 05:22 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Shifu - Jan 12, 2015, 05:38 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by tygaa2 - Jan 12, 2015, 07:26 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Shev - Jan 12, 2015, 10:35 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 11:14 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 11:23 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Eckley - Jan 12, 2015, 11:26 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 11:35 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by tygaa2 - Jan 12, 2015, 11:45 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Eckley - Jan 12, 2015, 11:51 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 11:53 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by tygaa2 - Jan 12, 2015, 11:56 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 11:59 AM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 12:01 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Eckley - Jan 12, 2015, 12:05 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 12:17 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Eckley - Jan 12, 2015, 12:21 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 12:23 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by tygaa2 - Jan 12, 2015, 12:39 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 01:49 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 02:44 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 03:39 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 12, 2015, 05:02 PM
RE: Greninja banned to Ubers in Smogon - by Rogue - Jan 13, 2015, 06:00 PM

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