Giratina-O being tested in OU? Thoughts?
Just for the record, I'm just gonna post my thoughts about the Giratina-O suspect test even if there was some intention or not.
ATM I just can't see Giratina-O staying in OU tier since it doesn't have a poor movepool, 4MSS, or poor typing as some people have noted. Regarding its movepool, Giratina-O has access to three forms of status (T-Wave, WOW, Toxic), viable setup options (Tailwind, Calm Mind), and sizable movepool (Shadow Ball/Force/Sneak, Hex, Draco Meteor/Dragon Claw/Outrage, Aura Sphere Earth Power/Earthquake, Iron Head/Tail, Thunder Bolt/Thunder, Aqua Tail, Energy Ball, etc). The only thing that Giratina-O doesn't have access to is reliable recovery but Giratina-O still has enough bulk (150/100/100) and moderately decent typing (with 3 immunities including no spike/ts weakness) to just pull off a SubCM set (Crotina) or a hex+status set. The way I view Giratina-O is very similar to Aegislash since it has many potential sets its to run like pivot defog, physically/specially defensive, SubCM, mixed offensive, Tailwind, etc. Of course their's the fact that Giratina-O is limited to holding the Griseous Orb but its like having two items (Spooky/Draco Plate) in one. I too watched aim's video about should Giratina-O should be OU, but I have also taken into consideration most of the posts from the suspect thread and from suspect laddering myself for the brief time until today's announcement. Yes this Pokemon would be solid answers to stuff like Charizard Y, Excadrill, Landorus I/T, Serperior, etc but then again it would eventually settle in the metagame similar to how Aegislash did and will have almost zero opportunity cost. Giratina-O just everything it needs to abuse its bulk, offense, and supportive to the point here anyone can fixated its own check/counters. I could be wrong, but we'll never know for sure until Smogon's OU council would bring another Giratina-O suspect in the future and see it develop in some way.
On a final note, I highly doubt bringing down Giratina-O would eventually bring back deadly threats like Mega Salamence or the revamped Greninja at all considering they just 2HKO the entire tier. Besides no one wants to see the same issues Mega Salamence pulled with its sub/roost/dd/return set or Greninja's unpredictable nature (btw LO Greg can 2HKO G-O with Ice Beam with SR). I'm glad that the OU council might start to potentially reconsider bans but honestly Giratina-O would have polarized the tier in the long run.
ATM I just can't see Giratina-O staying in OU tier since it doesn't have a poor movepool, 4MSS, or poor typing as some people have noted. Regarding its movepool, Giratina-O has access to three forms of status (T-Wave, WOW, Toxic), viable setup options (Tailwind, Calm Mind), and sizable movepool (Shadow Ball/Force/Sneak, Hex, Draco Meteor/Dragon Claw/Outrage, Aura Sphere Earth Power/Earthquake, Iron Head/Tail, Thunder Bolt/Thunder, Aqua Tail, Energy Ball, etc). The only thing that Giratina-O doesn't have access to is reliable recovery but Giratina-O still has enough bulk (150/100/100) and moderately decent typing (with 3 immunities including no spike/ts weakness) to just pull off a SubCM set (Crotina) or a hex+status set. The way I view Giratina-O is very similar to Aegislash since it has many potential sets its to run like pivot defog, physically/specially defensive, SubCM, mixed offensive, Tailwind, etc. Of course their's the fact that Giratina-O is limited to holding the Griseous Orb but its like having two items (Spooky/Draco Plate) in one. I too watched aim's video about should Giratina-O should be OU, but I have also taken into consideration most of the posts from the suspect thread and from suspect laddering myself for the brief time until today's announcement. Yes this Pokemon would be solid answers to stuff like Charizard Y, Excadrill, Landorus I/T, Serperior, etc but then again it would eventually settle in the metagame similar to how Aegislash did and will have almost zero opportunity cost. Giratina-O just everything it needs to abuse its bulk, offense, and supportive to the point here anyone can fixated its own check/counters. I could be wrong, but we'll never know for sure until Smogon's OU council would bring another Giratina-O suspect in the future and see it develop in some way.
On a final note, I highly doubt bringing down Giratina-O would eventually bring back deadly threats like Mega Salamence or the revamped Greninja at all considering they just 2HKO the entire tier. Besides no one wants to see the same issues Mega Salamence pulled with its sub/roost/dd/return set or Greninja's unpredictable nature (btw LO Greg can 2HKO G-O with Ice Beam with SR). I'm glad that the OU council might start to potentially reconsider bans but honestly Giratina-O would have polarized the tier in the long run.
