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[SMOGON] Smogon Metagame Megathread
#1
You guys know how we do this. Discuss your findings and experiences with the metagame here as it comes to fruition and evolves. What mons are you seeing? Popular sets? Who do you like to run? What themes are popular? Let us know!

P.S.: To avoid confusion, please write about what tier you are talking about in your post. Thank you!
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#2
Sooooo.... whats up with all these new mons? A majority of them are soooo slow with decent defenses and low HP stats. Has the meta shifted to stall teams or just slow and bulky in general? Been a long time since I played lol
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#3
Bucsfan818 - I think it's way too early in the metagame to make any real calls on that. I feel like a lot of Gen 7 mons are outclassed by older gens though, so either TR set-up or bulky stall might be a necessity to run them.

Findings in Gen 7 Anything Goes (will update as I play more)
  • Z-Conversion Porygon line is busted, guys. Using it changes the user's type to the typing of the first move on your list and boosts every stat by 1. Porygon now gets +1 boost and an adaptability STAB of its choice all in the same turn.
  • Pheromosa makes me hate my life. Aegislash seems like the only thing that can handle switching in on Pheromosa and all the Tapus.
    • Update - Aegi is still lord this gen, oh my gosh
    • Update 2 - Aegi is even more broken than it was imo
    • Update 3 - okay, I just rekt Pheromosa with a Mimikyu. I'm so happy.
  • Spooky Sandcastle Palossand gets a SANDSTORM BOOSTED SYNTHESIS RECOVERY MOVE
  • Beak Blast makes me scared to U-turn, guys
  • Sharpedo gets Psychic Crunch...RIP Venu
  • MINIOR GETS SHELL SMASH OMG
  • Is Baneful Bunker the new DV replacement on Smeargle or what?
  • Now I remember why Genesect went to Ubers...
  • omg Pelipper + Dugtrio is great but I can't stop laughing at the fact that Pelipper is now the main rain setter loloslafosjfaskfsalfafsaf
  • Tapu Koko is the superior Tapu I think. It's 2fast4me. I predict it and Pheromosa will get the banhammer very quickly.
  • Charizard-X is really good right now. No one is prepping for it and it seems like only rain teams can touch it.
  • MY BOY EXCADRILL IS GONNA MAKE A COMEBACK. Exca + Tapu Lele is 2stronk. Excadrill is seriously the best revenge killer I've seen so far and steel STAB is SO USEFUL NOW.
  • Alola Raichu + Tapu Koko is seriously ridiculous.
  • Celesteela makes Tapu Lele eat dirt. It's Skarmory 2.0, but has better offensive presence and more special bulk in lieu of Spikes/Roost. There's recovery options and Heavy Slam hits like a truck due to the fact that it's so fat.
  • RIP Talonflame, haven't run into Smogon bird once
  • Also haven't run into Alolan Muk yet...why?
  • Baton Pass is gonna get b7'd right?
  • Magearna is going to get banned. It's stupid with Dugtrio.
  • Alola Persian looks so dumb but it reks Prankster. STAB Foul Play, Fur Coat, high speed coupled with Taunt, and Parting Shot?
  • Thunder Dragalge can rek 3/4 of the Tapus
  • Rain will be the superior weather type
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#4
Wishiwashi-School @ Choice Band  
Ability: Schooling  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA  
Lonely Nature  
- Earthquake  
- Ice Beam  
- U-turn  
- Waterfall
This wishiwashi way to OP try it out yourself
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#5
Dumping Gen7 AG sets here, don't mind me~ updating as I go

Please note that these are just fun, experimental day 1 sets and not meant to be taken seriously

Do you want everyone to hate you? Here you go:

Tapu Koko @ Electric Seed
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Roost
- Thunderbolt
- Dazzling Gleam

This is fun:

Mimikyu @ Red Card
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Will-o-Wisp / Thunder Wave
- Play Rough
- Destiny Bond / Trick Room
- Taunt

More reliable Mimikyu variant:

Mimikyu @ Life Orb
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Shadow Sneak
- Substitute

lol:

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Merciless
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Venoshock
- Infestation
- Recover
- Toxic

Here's easy mode:

Pheromosa @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
- Ice Beam
- U-Turn
- Bug Buzz
- Hi Jump Kick / Focus Blast

hint: get to +2 speed for maximum lulz

SHELL SMASH MINIOR THO:

Minior @ White Herb
Ability: Shields Down
76 HP / 252 Atk / 156 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shell Smash
- Power Gem (maybe Stone Edge?)
- Acrobatics
- Explosion / Earthquake

yo dawg, i herd u like Trick Room:

Palossand @ Passho Berry
Ability: Water Compaction / Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Shore Up
- Giga Drain
- Sand Storm / Iron Defense
- Earth Power / Shadow Ball

Sableye called, he said his mom said he has to go home now:

Persian-Alola @ Darkinium-Z
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Taunt
- Foul Play
- Parting Shot
- Toxic

idk what im doing anymore:

Turtonator @ Maranga Berry
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shell Trap
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Charge Beam


hi im naitre and this is jackass:

Wishiwashi-School @ Leftovers
Ability: Schooling
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Aqua Ring
- Scald
- Protect
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#6
@naitre Yea youre right it is too early to tell with the gen 7 pokemon. I was just wondering if bulky teams or stall teams were more popular before sun/moon even released
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#7
Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP/ 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
-Scald
-Roost
-U-Turn
-Hurricane

Use this with Kingdra and Thunder Tapu Koko is sooooo good. Pelipper is the best new weather setter.
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#8
(Nov 18, 2016, 10:51 AM)Idle Wrote: Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP/ 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
-Scald
-Roost
-U-Turn
-Hurricane

Use this with Kingdra and Thunder Tapu Koko is sooooo good. Pelipper is the best new weather setter.

Honestly just having access to U-Turn gives Pelipper such an advantage on the other weather setters. Then it has reliable recovery on top of it
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#9
Silvally @ Life Orb
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Explosion
- Swords Dance
- Parting Shot
- Shadow Claw

Here comes the B O O M!
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#10
(Nov 18, 2016, 03:34 AM)Bucsfan818 Wrote: Sooooo.... whats up with all these new mons? A majority of them are soooo slow with decent defenses and low HP stats. Has the meta shifted to stall teams or just slow and bulky in general? Been a long time since I played lol

@Bucsfan818 Slow =/= Stall. You even said yourself that most of them had bad HP stats, meaning they aren't that bulky.
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