Nov 22, 2016, 06:39 PM (This post was last modified: Nov 25, 2016, 11:19 AM by Justin.)
Here is a VGC17 speed tier list of all Pokemon at or above 100 base speed, and a list of Pokemon at or below 40 base speed. For a more in depth guide here is a visual chart, and here is a spreadsheet.
It makes me really sad that Wishiwashi has really low base speed, in school form, it would be a really strong sweeper if it wasn't for its low HP and speed...
(Nov 22, 2016, 11:43 PM)itwasikiriya Wrote: It makes me really sad that Wishiwashi has really low base speed, in school form, it would be a really strong sweeper if it wasn't for its low HP and speed...
Well, you can still do some damage with Trick Room.
I guess that Trick Room is goin to be used a lot this gen, and Pheromosa goin to be banned for sure.
Nov 23, 2016, 05:29 AM (This post was last modified: Nov 23, 2016, 05:32 AM by Excalibur0126.)
@difev I don't see why it would be banned as it has really poor defences and can be dealt with through priority. Just run something like Gale Wings Brave Bird on Talonflame,
The minute you think of giving up, think of the reason why you held on so long.
@itwasikiriya To be honest, Wishiwashi isn't meant to be a sweeper, it functions more as a wallbreaker. With something as basic as a Choice Specs or even a Splash Plate, Wishiwashi basically won't have a switch in unless its something super tanky like Mega-Venusaur or Chansey
(Nov 23, 2016, 05:29 AM)Excalibur0126 Wrote: @difev I don't see why it would be banned as it has really poor defences and can be dealt with through priority. Just run something like Gale Wings Brave Bird on Talonflame,
@Excalibur0126 with some ways to cancel priority you can easily pass trough it, Talonflame is kind of bad with the gale wings nerf, you just change her or protect if doubles and put a priority damper on field, its gg