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[RATE MY TEAM] "Here Comes the Sun"- A Mega Charizard Y/Mega Venusaur Team
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It's always nice to see that a team can still work without the support of common moves such as Fake Out, Tailwind or flinch spams. Interesting team, HP Ice Heatran + Air Baloon seems a great combo, even if i don't like Air Baloon very much due to double targeting in VGC. I've quickly run a damage calc on Cress' Ice Beam

164 SpA Cresselia Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 156-188 (94.5 - 113.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Have you thought about a Modest nature with less investment just to make sure your Ice Beam does get the kill?

124+ SpA Cresselia Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 168-200 (101.8 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Icy Wind/Thunder Wave is also a reason to debate. Icy Wind can punish the common switches on LandT/Mence/.. getting important 2-3OHKOs too, while being able to slow down ScarfMamoswine too. On the other hand Bisharp and Milotic could get a free boost and compromise your Icy Wind spam. Thunder Wave isn't able to hit Ground and Electric types and it's a single target move, but as you said it is huge against Tailwinds and also gets paralyzes.
However Thunder Wave fits better in this core, even if Conkeldurr and M-Venusaur are great checks to Bisharp and Milotic and you wouldn't be so afraid of spamming Icy Wind anyway.
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RE: "Here Comes the Sun"- A Mega Charizard Y/Venusaur Team - by GiMYz - Feb 9, 2015, 09:42 AM

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