Dec 6, 2016, 01:30 AM (This post was last modified: Dec 11, 2016, 05:05 PM by Kidakairis. Edit Reason: Chain of 30 or higher is 4 iv ditto not 40 or higher )
How to breed without a 6 IV Ditto - Egg Group Breeding
Some people don’t like using or don’t have access to a 6 IV Ditto. There is luckily a workaround for this issue (for the most part) however and it is known as Egg Group Breeding. What exactly is Egg Group Breeding you may ask it is when you breed two Pokemon with at least one common egg group in common. This differs from the easy breed any Pokemon with a Ditto formula that most are used too. This method of breeding however has it’s faults, Pokemon that don’t have genders or all male exclusive Pokemon cannot be breed with this method (with rare exceptions such as Nidoran Female being able to breed Nidoran Male), but besides that this is the absolute best way to breed 5 IV Pokemon without the use of 5 IV or 6 IV Ditto. Though it may take sometime to build a full box of egg group parents if you are someone like who like to breed 5 IV Pokemon it is well worth the time and effort. If I haven’t lost you yet let’s move into what you need.
1. Destiny Knot - Through Pick Up Ability or Bought with 48 BP in the Battle Royal Dome
2. Power Items - (All of them if available but you maybe able to skip a few) - Bought in Battle Royal Dome for 16 BP a piecer (96 BP together)
3. A 4 IV Ditto with any of these IV spreads 31/31/31/x/31/x 31/31/31/x/x/31 31/31/x/x/31/31 x/31/31/x/31/31
4. A 4 IV Ditto with any of these IV spread 31/x/31/31/31/x 31/x/31/31/x/31 31/x/x/31/31/31 x/x/31/31/31/31
5. Between these two Dittos you must have 31/31/31/31/31/31. If you have 2 of the above Ditto and have additional Ditto 31 you need you can also do this method
Ditto can be found on Route 10. By obtaining a chain of 30 or higher in S.O.S Battle you are guaranteed at least 4 perfect IVs.
6. A box of female Pokemon with 50/50 gender ratio, all with two Egg Groups in a way that can be chained. (Exp, Magikarp Water 2/ Dragon, Feebas Dragon/Water 1, Bidoof Water 1/Field)
This is all that you will need to start the breeding process. I will be using Magikarp because it has the fastest egg hatch speed out of all Pokemon in the game for my example,
The Breeding ProcessFor each of your Egg Groups you will need two Male Pokemon with the IV spreads 31/31/31/x/31/31 and 31/x/31/31/31/31. The reason it needs to be Male is because when breeding through Egg Groups the Male Pokemon will never pass down species (Exp. Male Magikarp + Female Feebass = Female Feebass). The reason for each of the IV spreads is because for the most part you only use special or physical attackers. I will note here however if you want to breed a mixed attacker you can use a Bottle Cap to create a superficial 6 IV Pokemon. VERY IMPORTANT YOU CANNOT PASS DOWN A BOTTLE CAPED STAT. Breeding a 6 IV Pokemon is not very practical and will not be covered in this guide. So let’s start our breed. The Ditto I will be using in this example will be referred to as Ditto 1 31/31/31/x/31/x and Ditto 2 x/x/31/31/31/31.
First I want to breed my Magikarp with the Physical IV Spread so 31/31/31/x/31/31 is what I am aiming for. So I will start the process by putting Ditto 2 x/x/31/31/31/31 holding Power Anklet in the nursery followed by a Magikarp x/x/x/x/x/x, I will only collect and hatch one egg which will be a Magikarp with x/x/x/x/x/31.
I will now Give Magikarp x/x/x/x/x/31 the Power Anklet and then put him in the nursery with Ditto 1 31/31/31/x/31/x with Destiny Knot. Now because Magikarp is holding Power Anklet every Pokemon will have 31 in the speed IV so I never have to worry about inheriting Ditto 1’s bad speed IV.
I will now only ever switch out Magikarp with a new Magikarp whenever the new Magikarp has more perfect IV’s then the previous one (Always remembering to give the new Magikarp the Power Anklet). I will continue to do this until I have breed a Male Magikarp with 31/31/31/x/31/31. This will not take long to do because by using a combination of the Destiny Knot and a Power Item you speed up your chances of a correct IV spread.
Now that I completed my Physical Attacker Water 2/Dragon Egg Group Breeder (This Is Magikarp) I will move onto breeding a Special Attack Water 2/Dragon Egg Group Breeder (Magikarp). This works very similar to the first way but I will go through it again.
First I will breed Magikarp x/x/x/x/x/x with Ditto 1 31/31/31/x/31/x holding a Power Weight. I will again only breed for one egg which will be a Magikarp 31/x/x/x/x/x.
I will now put Magikarp 31/x/x/x/x/x holding the Power Weight into the nursery with Ditto 2 x/x/31/31/31/31 holding a Destiny Knot. I will again only replace the current Magikarp with a New Magikarp when it has more IV’s then the current Magikarp (I will always remember to give the New Magikarp Power Weight). I will eventually get a Male Magikarp with 31/x/31/31/31/31 which is perfect for a special attacker.
Believe it or not the hard part is out of the way, now comes egg group chain breeding. At this point I have breed a Magikarp with 31/31/31/x/31/31 and one with 31/x/31/31/31/31. I no longer have to use the Ditto for this process. Egg group chain breeding is easy I just have to capture a female Pokemon with one egg group matching Magikarps and another to continue the chain. In this example I will be using a female Feebas (Magikarp is Water 2/Dragon Feebas is Water 1/Dragon)
Egg Group Chain Breeding
So I want to start making my physical attacker IV spread (31/31/31/x/31/31). So I put the male Magikarp with 31/31/31/x/31/31 holding Destiny Knot into the nursery with female Feebas x/x/x/x/x/x. Now all the offspring will be Feebas and what I will be looking for is another female Feebas with better IV’s than the current one. For this example say I breed a female Feebas with x/31/31/x/x/31 I will then give it a Power item corresponding to one of its stats (Power Bracer, Power Belt, or Power Anklet all work in this scenario). I will then continue breeding only replacing the Female Feebas with another female Feebas with better IV’s making sure to give it a Power Item every time until I breed a male Feebas with 31/31/31/x/31/31. ALWAYS USE A POWER ITEM IT LOWERS THE CHANCE FOR FAILURE OF PASSING A STAT YOU DON’T WANT.
Again I will use this same Method to breed a special attacker (31/x/31/31/31/31). It will follow the same breed process as the physical attacker only using the special attacker IV spread Magikarp. I assume at this point you understand the process if you are confused just let me know.
When your done you will have a male Feebas with 31/31/31/x/31/31 and 31/x/31/31/31/31.
Now all you have to do is continue the chain. Remember to chain only with Pokemon who have 2 egg groups because you will not be able to continue chaining only using Pokemon with one egg group. There are 13 egg groups in total with Pokemon that are breedable meaning you will be done chaining once you have 24 (considering you first Pokemon had 2 Egg groups) or 26 (if your first Pokemon had one Egg Group or you want to make sure you breed the Pokeball you want). There maybe less if you get lucky enough to get a 6 IV Male Pokemon (you won’t need 2 separate Pokemon for that egg group).
I hope I helped a few People out I will end saying this the first guide I have ever written (sorry for the misspelling I know I always have at least one). Please comment if you have any question or you want me to correct a mistake. I will end with a few frequently asked questions,
Why breed with in Egg Groups?
It is easy to get a 5 IV Male Egg Group parent compared to trying to breed with an assortment of Ditto every time I want to breed something new. It is not as time consuming as people think and can be set up rather quickly in Sun and Moon (minus the BP grind). It is also more effective because using a Power Item over an Everstone very unpractical. Save yourself some time if you don’t have access or want to use a 6 IV Ditto or can’t find a proper 5 IV Ditto
Why can’t my 4 IV Ditto have 31 in both attacks?
IMO it is worthless as a 4 IV Ditto if it has 31 in both attacks. To set up your first 5 IV spread using a 4 IV Ditto with 31 in both attacks isn’t as quick as using one with only one perfect attack. Statistically it will always be faster to use a 1 31 attack Ditto. Also there is a group of Pokemon that can’t be breed using Egg Groups due to being Genderless and theses 4 IV Ditto excel in that instance.
Help my 4 IV Ditto aren’t the ones you used in your example!
Don’t worry I will try to help you if you comment helping but be sure to check if you can’t figure it out yourself first. You want to put the stat that is impossible to get on your using your Ditto when breeding with Magikarp. Remember Power Items are your friends Power Weight always passes the HP IV, Power Belt always passes the Defense IV, Power Band always passes the Special Defense IV, Power Anklet always Passes the Speed IV. Make sure Magikarp has whichever IV you would otherwise be missing. If you still don’t get it post and I will help.
Why should I use Pokemon that are 50/50 gendered?
When you breed with 87.5% Male 12.5% Female you will have a hard time switching out the Female when chain breeding. When breeding 25% Male 75% Female Pokemon you may not ruin into a Male to finish the chain breed. 50/50 is just the best ratio to use.
What are the other fastest egg hatches?
Honestly I may update this after Sun and Moon get’s bank support so I can make a definitive list otherwise bulbapedia is your friend,
What about Trick Room Pokemon or Hidden Power egg group breeds?
If you guys want me to make a guide detailing how to do this just let me know. It is really hard to catch Ditto with the stats you need in Sun and Moon though, XY is the easiest and I may just make a guide when bank support is added.
When should I just use a 4 IV Ditto?
The only time it would make more sense to use a 4 IV Ditto over a 5 IV Egg Group Parent whould be if the Pokemon is incapable of breeding with a gendered Pokemon, or the Pokemon you are attempting to breed falls into the 87.5% Male group. The reason for the latter is because you will find that getting a Female to breed takes forever...well 1/8 times but still rarely. Before if you where trying to breed for a specific Pokeball the only way to do so would be breeding with a Female but since Sun and Moon now Male Pokemon pass down the Pokeball when breeding with the Ditto or a Pokemon of the same species. Though the odds of getting a 5 IV Pokemon will be lower with a 4 IV Ditto and a Parent that will always require the corresponding 5 IV it will still be faster than trying to breed only for Females replacements that are required for Egg Group Breeding
Where do I go from here?
Go out and catch a Ditto for every Nature that you need. There are 25 Natures but arguably you will only use 18 of them (the 5 natures that decress and incress nothing, and the natures that lower the opposite Defense are the 7 you don't need). You could further Lower this to 14 if you are uninterested in the Natures that lower speed. To catch properly natured Ditto's in Sun and Moon I highly reccomend batch breeding Abra with the ability synchronize. It will be much faster to get the natures you need breeding Abra and than catching Ditto with them then it will be catching Ditto. The only reason to catch Ditto first would be if you are interested in finding them with specific IV's such as 0 or 30 for breeding Trick Room users or Hidden Powers respectively.
Thank You for reading and again I really hoped I helped a few people out. Have a nice day.