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[VGC] Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread
(Jan 14, 2015, 02:34 PM)naitre Wrote:
(Jan 14, 2015, 02:32 PM)tygaa2 Wrote:
(Jan 14, 2015, 02:30 PM)naitre Wrote:
(Jan 14, 2015, 02:28 PM)tygaa2 Wrote: everyone in vgc is running relaxed cress at the moment because cress's biggest threat is live orb bisharp

It doesn't make a difference.

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 82-98 (36.1 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Cresselia: 92-110 (40.5 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

VS Relaxed Cress

It's a decent chunk out of its HP. Not the best counter, like I said, but not the worst either. Nothing is going to outright wipe the floor with Cress.

there are better options for taking down cress. b/c the whole time your struggling to 3 or 4 hit KO it your opponent will have another pokemon attacking freely

That's why I said it's not the best counter, but it's not the worst either.

cresselia is just op :P
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Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Justin - Dec 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Eckley - Dec 17, 2014, 03:44 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 17, 2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by tygaa2 - Dec 17, 2014, 10:10 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 18, 2014, 11:56 AM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 18, 2014, 01:13 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Eckley - Dec 18, 2014, 01:19 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 18, 2014, 03:07 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by tygaa2 - Dec 18, 2014, 04:10 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 18, 2014, 06:13 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Justin - Dec 19, 2014, 12:00 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 19, 2014, 12:03 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Justin - Dec 20, 2014, 02:07 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 20, 2014, 02:25 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 20, 2014, 02:51 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Eckley - Dec 20, 2014, 03:47 PM
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RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 20, 2014, 05:59 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by SCf3 - Dec 20, 2014, 08:16 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Justin - Dec 23, 2014, 07:51 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Eckley - Dec 26, 2014, 11:38 AM
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