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[VGC] Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread
(Jan 14, 2015, 10:31 PM)Rogue Wrote: 252+ Atk Mega Heracross Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 210-250 (92.5 - 110.1%)

not even M Herecross has a guaranteed OHKO with a SE stab attack utilizing his skill link that's just one stupidly bulky pokemon...

Edit: also rougue your missing some life orbs in those calcs right?

yea you were

252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 268-320 (60.3 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (ik this guy had a guaranteed 2HKO)

Knock off vs no item:
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 190-226 (42.7 - 50.9%) -- 2.7% chance to 2HKO
vs item:
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 281-330 (63.2 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


basically if you want your cresselia to live 2 turns pair it up with mega zard Y since he can counter every counter to cress using dragon pulse/focus blast, solar beam and heat wave....
Evilsabre
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Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Justin - Dec 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Eckley - Dec 17, 2014, 03:44 PM
RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Rogue - Dec 17, 2014, 05:22 PM
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RE: Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread - by Justin - Dec 19, 2014, 12:00 PM
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