Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread

[RobinPMC]

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:20 PM)naitre Wrote:

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:17 PM)tygaa2 Wrote: cress hits conkeldurr for super effective damage via psychic. not a good cress counter

Assault Vest can help Conk take a couple Psyshocks or Psychics from full Sp. ATK Cress. It's not the best counter, but it's not the worst either.

My conkeldurr is assult so ill take care of cress :D

[tygaa2]

everyone in vgc is running relaxed [+def] cress at the moment because cress's biggest threat is live orb bisharp

and thats only IF you get a guts boost.

there are better options for taking down cress. b/c the whole time your struggling to 3 or 4 hit KO it your opponent will have another pokemon attacking freely

[RobinPMC]

Dang this is getting interestting ill guess ill have to find another wayto take out cress

This is my team any advice?

PKMN 1: Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sheer Force
Level: 50
EVs: 108 HP / 152 Atk / 104 Def / 144 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off

PKMN 2:Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- X-Scissor

PKMN 3:Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Play Rough
- Aqua Jet
- Superpower

PKMN 4:Thundurus (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 244 HP / 108 Def / 64 SpA / 72 SpD / 20 Spe
Calm Nature
- Taunt
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

PKMN 5:Salamence-Mega @ Salamencite
Ability: Aerilate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
- Protect

PKMN 6:Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Tailwind

[RobinPMC]

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:34 PM)naitre Wrote:

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:32 PM)tygaa2 Wrote:

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:30 PM)naitre Wrote:

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:28 PM)tygaa2 Wrote: everyone in vgc is running relaxed cress at the moment because cress's biggest threat is live orb bisharp

It doesn't make a difference.

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 82-98 (36.1 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Cresselia: 92-110 (40.5 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

VS Relaxed Cress

It's a decent chunk out of its HP. Not the best counter, like I said, but not the worst either. Nothing is going to outright wipe the floor with Cress.

there are better options for taking down cress. b/c the whole time your struggling to 3 or 4 hit KO it your opponent will have another pokemon attacking freely

That's why I said it's not the best counter, but it's not the worst either.

cresselia is just op :P

[tygaa2]

cress will KO conk before conk KO's cress.
common ev spread psyshock from cress will 2 hit KO max hp conkeldurr

also sitrus berry is the most common item on cress making it even harder for conk to take it down before fainting itself

i agree robin cress is op!

[evilsabre]

whats that terrakion x scizor on the cress like out of interest?

[RobinPMC]

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:37 PM)tygaa2 Wrote: cress will KO conk before conk KO's cress.
common ev spread psyshock from cress will 2 hit KO max hp conkeldurr

also sitrus berry is the most common item on cress making it even harder for conk to take it down before fainting itself

i agree robin cress is op!

I also have u-turn on talonflame maybe that will work?

[tygaa2]

just pray to goomy when you see cress

[RobinPMC]

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:38 PM)evilsabre Wrote: whats that terrakion x scizor on the cress like out of interest?

Thats not powerfull enough either cress is just so annoying

[RobinPMC]

(Jan 14, 2015, 02:41 PM)tygaa2 Wrote: just pray to goomy when you see cress

Haha then ill get crits off