Pokemon VGC 2015 Metagame Megathread

[evilsabre]

(Jan 13, 2015, 04:47 PM)Rogue Wrote:

(Jan 13, 2015, 04:43 PM)evilsabre Wrote:

(Jan 13, 2015, 04:18 PM)Rogue Wrote:

(Jan 13, 2015, 04:15 PM)evilsabre Wrote:

(Jan 13, 2015, 03:43 PM)Rogue Wrote: Am I the only one that feels like Mega Heracross is a little underrated?

Naitre and I have been in the lab and made a trick room team with one. We're currently climbing the showdown ladder quickly and are shooting for top 10 or so.
(we will do a RMT later on for those who are interested)

2HKO'ing every Cresselia/OHKO'ing  every M-Kang/and every time we see a rain team we just click bullet seed and win.

no your not i personally don't like him but he's got huge underrated power i mean 185 base attack you don't even need to invest in it and with a positive nature you'll still have more raw power than a max invested adamant landorus-T.....

admittedly the number of intimidates, will-o-wispers and the existence of gale wings talonflame are too hard for him to deal with + sylveon is also pretty bad for him this year.

You're right, thats why I brushed him off at first. But as soon as I paired him up in a trick room team while having support such as Heatran it's never a problem.

But that's also another reason on why you don't always bring your mega/favorite pokemon every match. Some times you wont need them/they wont be useful. Other times they'll make you pull a 4-0.

i'm just not sold that he's useful enough of the time to warrant him, vs 50% of teams he feels like dead weight because they carry talonflame and then a good 30% + carry sylveon atm then with landurous being everywhere you need to watch out for an intimidate. Not to mention with bisharp and aegisslash running free atm setting up trick rooms is not exactly an easy task this year

Last year, sure. But Talonflame can't touch Heatran :b Heatran takes our Sylveon, takes out bisharp and aegislash, and trick room is ridiculously easy to put up with Cresselia. I've set up trick room as someone doubled up with a sylveon and aegislash against my Cresselia before. Don't forget about Cress, it's like a guaranteed trick room.

actually it's only guaranteed like 85% of the time you go up against bisharp because the bisharp crits the other 15% and you go bye bye XD Joking aside i don't think its a bad choice but your already locking yourself into relying on the power of legends for someone like me who doesn't like to use them getting heracross to work well is upward struggle to the point of not being worth it unless you absolutely love him. Similar to mega ampharos this year imo mega heracross just has too many common checks or counters to be usable consistently.

That said other underated megas atm for me are:

Altaria: (i mean seriously this thing even fits into the dragon/fairy/steel core pretty well and has pixilate hyper voice/double edge with cotton guard + roost i mean with either tailwind or trick room this thing could be insane XD.

Steelix: fits the core and has sand force + a stupidly high defense value with usable special defense.

Blastoise: Suffers a bit due to other picks like rotom and thunderous but given the right support i think he's stronger than people give him credit.

Glalie: refrigerate explosion that is all....

Abomasnow: i putting this 1 down to talonflame but otherwise blizzards in the current meta seem to be a really good idea :D

Slowbro: i mean seriously where is the calm mind monster i was scared of pre ORAS....

Garchomp: i honestly think this mega keeps getting written off as a joke (even if its speed tier is god aweful too fast to tr reliably too slow to use without tailwind). That said this guy can really tear teams apart with a tailwind i mean base 170 attack or if you can dream of the possible stab, sand force boosted eq from a 170 base att pokemon that will have more damage than its unmega'd form even without att investment or the ability -drools- i want to see this thing catch some people off guard i really do :D